How much would you pay to save weight?
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?
Postby pawnii » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:24 pm
I'm 58kg and ill prob hit 55kg in Jan so I don't need to concentrate on loosing anymore weight.
Not that any of this matters when it comes to me being a weightweenie.
Having a lightweight stiff road bike is no more than a hobby.
No different than building a car, boat or motorbike.
FWIW my bike costs $1.69 a gram
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?
Postby singlespeedscott » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:06 pm
I would use a steel fork over an aluminum one.toolonglegs wrote:If you are a wippet it might be fine... but it would have to be pretty light weight if your going to run alloy forks and standard wheels. Personally I wouldn't ride a super light weight alloy coke can ... maybe a CAAD10 though ... but I will keep the carbon fork.singlespeedscott wrote:Light weight oversized steel and aluminum would hardly be a noodletoolonglegs wrote:Oh you mean just alloy and steel parts... No carbon allowed. Meh... You would be building the ultimate noodle.
On how much people spend ... I turned up to a stage race in June where everyone was running super lightweight clinchers etc ... I had a fat day .
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?
Postby Arlberg » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:09 pm
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$3.02 per gram
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?
Postby kb » Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:16 am
You will be tomorrowDimis wrote: Oh the shame... big effort on my part, but only a fraction over 23 mins
I have no Idea what why either, I wasn't even feeling leg heavy.
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?
Postby jules21 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:07 pm
i prefer to spend the money on another bike.. like a CX bike, and the legal representation when my wife initiates divorce proceedings for buying it..
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?
Postby pawnii » Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:05 pm
why do ppl compare bike weight with rider weight anyway? Regardless of your weight do you think you'd enjoy riding a 10kg bike over a 5kg bike?
add 2kg to your bike and see how it handles and then tell me bike weight isn't important.
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?
Postby winstonw » Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:21 pm
as my mechanic says, lighter components compromise something...you better be damned sure it isn't your life.
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Postby pawnii » Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:39 pm
the trick is to get light components that don't compromise anything
I wouldn't worry about speed wobbles or frame flexing bottom brackets , brake rubbing rim flexing, bars snapping or rough roads (how rough are your sealed roads anyway?)
Just make sure you have the right setup for the job.
you wouldn't take a climbing bike to Paris Roubaix or vice versa.
I'm not talking about 5kg custom weightweenie bikes here i'm taking about going from 8kg to 6kg.
If money was no object i reckon you could build a stiff bomb proof 6kg bike for a 85kg rider.
All my lightweight parts are rated up to 90kg rider limet.
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Postby pawnii » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:25 am
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?
Postby Dimis » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:05 am
Sorry... Quoted from a post above... but now that it has been removed my post is out of context and irrelevant. Bit of a shame, because I thought both posts were valuable to this thread.
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?
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Postby pawnii » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:06 pm
makes me wonder how cheap would the cheapest 6.8kg build cost.and the legal representation when my wife initiates divorce proceedings for buying it..
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How much would you pay to save weight?
Postby RonK » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:57 pm
But didn't mechanics say the same back before sub 10kg bikes became the norm? Before sub 9kg bikes became the norm? Before sub 8kg bikes became the norm?winstonw wrote:as my mechanic says, lighter components compromise something...you better be damned sure it isn't your life.
As far as I can tell, the sky hasn't fallen down yet.
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?
Postby jules21 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:23 pm
it's only once you get down to the ridiculously light stuff that i'd be worried.
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?
Postby winstonw » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:39 pm
I recall that in 1982, when living in the US, my LBS was very excited about the new Cannondale aluminium frames with oversized tubing.RonK wrote:But didn't mechanics say the same back before sub 10kg bikes became the norm? Before sub 9kg bikes became the norm? Before sub 8kg bikes became the norm?winstonw wrote:as my mechanic says, lighter components compromise something...you better be damned sure it isn't your life.
As far as I can tell, the sky hasn't fallen down yet.
They didn't report failures in the first few years that I dealt with them, and sales volume quickly grew to give Columbus and Reynolds tubing a serious grubbing.
OTOH, I see carbon deep section wheels dying regularly and low spoke alloy wheels doing spokes....and a guy in a Nundah A grade race a few weeks ago had his carbon bars snap in his hands in the straight, thus catapulting OTB. I'm sure at the time he felt the sky had fallen on him
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?
Postby winstonw » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:44 pm
"for racing" is the key. I think in decades past, average Joes couldn't afford multiple sets of wheels. I couldn't anyway...and many of the guys who seemed to race were working or low middle class. Don't remember knowing any well heeled cyclists in the 70s and 80s.jules21 wrote:i've chaulked up about 15k on my WH-R500 rims. those wheels are ~1900gm heavyweights and bulletproof. i'd feel safe trading them with lighter wheels for racing (actually my racing wheels are 1600g mid-weights).
it's only once you get down to the ridiculously light stuff that i'd be worried.
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?
Postby jules21 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:08 pm
good point - i started racing in 1991(?) for a year or two and only recently came back to it. wow - the scene has changed. back then it was plumbers and other tradies - i looked like a bit of a girl, being young, rake thin and with long hair and got abused first race i turned up at. the few female racers back then were probably racing for an opposing team. now it's all marketing professionals and company directors with $15k bikes. you still see the odd old school stalwart handing out 'advice' in the bunch thoughwinstonw wrote:"for racing" is the key. I think in decades past, average Joes couldn't afford multiple sets of wheels. I couldn't anyway...and many of the guys who seemed to race were working or low middle class. Don't remember knowing any well heeled cyclists in the 70s and 80s.
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?
Postby __PG__ » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:56 pm
Moving from a ~10 kg bike to a ~7.5 kg bike is interesting but you only really notice the difference in the initial surge of acceleration. If you are cruising around, or going on long gentle climbs it doesn't make much of a difference.
But putting the power down on the flats and getting over 40 km/h...it's much easier on a lighter bike, as is climbing 10%+ gradients. Although you also have to factor in the difference in frame stiffness.
For the record I've ridden the same wheels on both bikes.
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?
Postby TMjpn » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:40 pm
That said though I prefer quality over the lightest weight in my parts.
So as long as the ride is smile inducing and the bike can take the effort - to me thats all that matters.
Guys like Cancellara haven't ridden a bike (AT) 6.8 kilos since... forever
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