How much would you pay to save weight?

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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?

Postby pawnii » Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:59 pm

I wouldn't imagine Fab's touring road bike is any different than his team mates bikes.
He's not a sprinter so there's no advantage stiffening his fork and/or cockpit and UCI doesn't allow custom road frames.

That being said, i'm sure team Trek's Spring Classics(Paris Roubaix) bikes are completely different.
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Postby singlespeedscott » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:23 pm

Fabian rides a Domane. It's designed for rough roads so it will be stronger than a Madone.
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Postby TMjpn » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:25 pm

Yes it doesnt allow custom frames but he still gets to have his own custom geo - In order to comply with the UCI reg's Trek are offering a limited run off pro-geo frames out of the same special moulds.

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/arti ... ike-38181/

For as long as i've followed him his bikes have almost always tipped the scales at around the mid 7's.

Tarmac (AT) 7.3: http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/fab ... tarmac-sl2

Madone (AT) 7.4http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/p ... aix-29855/

Domane (AT) 7.6 http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/arti ... aix-36955/

He's a big dude with some serious grunt (and serious clout - his bikes aren't std team issue) so I dont think he's too worried about a few hundred grams!! Best to leave 6.8kg to the mountain goats :)

Not to mention the Domane pretty much is his bike from the ground up - he was the develoment rider for it!

Can't wait to see him square off with Martin and Wiggins at the Worlds TT soon!

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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?

Postby flex5150 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:33 pm

Having ridden a 2009 Astana madone (not Lances) I can say they are slightly different and heavier to the consumer models.
There is a far bit more carbon around the BB area and some custom geo tweeks
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?

Postby toolonglegs » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:11 pm

TMjpn wrote: Can't wait to see him square off with Martin and Wiggins at the Worlds TT soon!
Don't think he is all that interested in the TT is he for the worlds?.

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Postby TMjpn » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:45 pm

toolonglegs wrote:
TMjpn wrote: Can't wait to see him square off with Martin and Wiggins at the Worlds TT soon!
Don't think he is all that interested in the TT is he for the worlds?.
From what I read previously I didnt think so either - but since he nabbed the ITT last night in the Vuelta against Martin, the feeling is he's still in a good position to contend.

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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?

Postby pawnii » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:33 pm

well there u go.
I've never even heard of a Domaine.
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?

Postby TMjpn » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:21 pm

pawnii wrote:well there u go.
I've never even heard of a Domaine.
Well to be fair to you, 'comfort bikes' :P don't usually make a blip on a true WW's radar :)

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Considering some the WW fruit he puts on his bike (Nokon's, Speedplay Nano's etc..) even I'm surprised his rides weigh that much..

anyway thats enough about Treks :P

BTW Pawnii, your Foil info all over the internet has been very useful in speccing my latest build :mrgreen:

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Postby pawnii » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:59 pm

haha great that I can be of use to you.
let me know if there's anything I can help u with :)
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Postby flex5150 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:28 am

He wants to know which trek you recommend.
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?

Postby Xplora » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:09 pm

I am pretty much of the opinion that there is zero value in upgrades that move you lower than 6.8kgs, as that's the UCI limit. If you have the time and money to go chasing lower than that, good on you but for me, 6.8. The stiffest, most aero and durable 6.8kgs you can get :) If you can get Duranos or Gatorskins into that 6.8, even better. Nothing slows you down faster than flats.

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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?

Postby Benz250 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:04 pm

I'd be happy to lose 1.5 kg body weight & not touch the bike!

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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?

Postby njosey17 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:59 pm

Always the first thing I think of when I read a weight weenies thread!

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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?

Postby pawnii » Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:11 am

do both.
1.5kg off your bike
1.5kg off you ass :)
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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?

Postby toolonglegs » Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:35 am

I think I can lose about 1500g off my bike and maybe 6 or 7 kilos off myself... i think that would have had me on the podium today :D ... if i can get my weight down another 3 or 4 kilos over winter ( never easy! ) ... i will seriously think of chucking some euros at my bike!

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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?

Postby Xplora » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:12 am

Check out joe friel's comments bout the high fat diet. Easier to get to race weight at 60+ years old. If you can handle going coconut milk for your coffee (honestly, that is commitment).

Bouncing around and it looks like if you can go carbon tubular, you lost 250-500 grams without serious expense. Going clincher though is much more challenging. Alloy brake track even more so.

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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?

Postby Dimis » Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:55 pm

There is no correct answer to this...

Think of it like red wine... the connoisseur will tell you the Penfolds Grange is worth the $$$$ dollars but I can't tell the difference, between that or a $10 bottle.

On the other hand, I appreciate a well built, light bike.
It wont solve my problem of missing podiums, but it puts just a little more of a grin on my chin...

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Re: How much would you pay to save weight?

Postby flex5150 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:30 pm

Dimi no Shiraz is worth $$$$..( wine snob joke) 90, 91, 96, 98, 08 are the big Granges to look for in recent years. Dont spend more than $550... or buy mine so I can get more Zipps

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