TWE aero carbon rims
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TWE aero carbon rims
Postby trianything » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:58 pm
Anyone used Greg's all carbon aero clinchers? Pretty light for the price. I have his lightweight alloy rims which are excellent.
Any comments on them including stiffness, crosswind performance (especially) and durability would be much appreciated. I'm light and not particularly powerful so not overly worried about flex but nonetheless any views welcome.
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Re: TWE aero carbon rims
Postby vander » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:42 pm
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Re: TWE aero carbon rims
Postby open roader » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:30 pm
I rode these on a Giant TCR Adv. 1 frame and found them to be very lively, offering feedback from the road (you knew exactly what sort of road surface and degrees you were riding on. These were still quite fast to accelerate compared to a lightweight box section rim wheel and def. required a tad less effort to keep rolling once the speeds climbed well apst 30km/hr.
I had these matched to a couple of pairs of Schwalbe R.1 slick tyres and found this package very fast to steer and yet not overly flighty on decents and when the crosswinds did grab a hold of them which was generally when the winds pushed above 40km/hr and were dead set coming in from the side at 90 degrees.
In all I put just under 2,000 km on these in 18 months. I had the rear wheel go slightly out of whack (1.5mm) and despite opening the brakes as much as I would dare before I had to use too much lever to get some braking; the rim still rubbed slightly when I was out of the saddle and pushing hard on the drive side down stroke. My mechanic (qualified, trustworthy and very experienced) pulled one of the spokes clean out of the rim when making preliminary truing adjustments.
To his credit Greg replaced the rim as soon as it arrived in his workshop under his excellent warranty arrangement. He explained that he had had a few occurances of this nature and that he had changed both rim supplier for this wheel typre and also slighty upped the spec on the rim leading edge/spoke wall. The repair cost me only postage to get the wheel to him and took 3 weeks from breakage to return which I thought accepatable considering I live in country Victoria and postage is hardly warp speed here.
I sold the wheelset soon after but only as I was changing bikes and did not want to match a 50mm aero wheel on my next bike. So my suggestion would be to opt for a higher spoke count rear wheel if you want TWE wheels - despite Greg changing the rim spec. I was an 80kg rider back then and did not really make too many demands of my bikes (still don't) and i got a TWE 50mm 24 spoke wheel to flex enough to catch a brake pad set a good 2mm off closest rotation. The wheels do perform aerodynamically in my perfectly subjective opionion so adding more spokes to the set is a better option than going too light weight. The TWE premier hubs were excellent, they both spun forever on the stand but I cannot comment on longevity of these beyond 18 months of age from new.
I also have two pairs of TWE 26" MTB wheels (alloy) which have never missed a beat in the rain and grit for 4+ years.
I resisted temptation and ordered plain white decals
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Re: TWE aero carbon rims
Postby trianything » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:04 pm
Le Mong, I don't think they are ZIPP type profiles. If they were, Greg would have said I guess. Nothing on the website about that too. But I'm after 28/38 so probably not crucial. Wondering if I can go 48mm for rear hence asking about crosswind performance. Cheers
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Re: TWE aero carbon rims
Postby open roader » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:21 pm
If I were ordering another pair of TWE aero clinchers it would be 28 rear and 24 front, and maybe beefier spokes, esp in the rear even though I am relatively speaking, a low power producing rider.trianything wrote:I am now debating 24 or 28 spokes. My alloys are 28 as I intended to use them for training too
I most likely also would have gone for those stealth decals if Greg had them avail. back then - esp. on the Giant bike.trianything wrote:I'm going stealth decals like the current pair
My experience with a mis-matched pair of Xentis Mark 1 wheels (quite different to TWE but still mixed depth aero rims) has been good using a shallower front profile and a deeper rear profile. I live in a windy area and ride in open countryside 90% of my miles. Most days here have plenty of wind for 9 months of the year, so if you want to ride then you simply get well used to riding in windy conditions. I find now at 76kg bodyweight a 40km/hr cross wind does not gather my attention so much - esp. on the front end of the bike utilising a shallower front rim profile compared to the rear. If you want to take best advantage of aero profile rims I think this combination is a real world winner for solo riding in crosswinds.trianything wrote:Wondering if I can go 48mm for rear hence asking about crosswind performance.
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Re: TWE aero carbon rims
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Postby vander » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:22 pm
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Re: TWE aero carbon rims
Postby trianything » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:34 pm
No ones jumping out with negatives about Greg's full carbon rims so unless I hear a few, the maker is settled. I have had a few exchanges with Greg about the choices, see what he says about going deeper. He's a small rider too. Don't know anyone here with anything under 50mm so difficult to work out for myself.
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Re: TWE aero carbon rims
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Re: TWE aero carbon rims
Postby sdnelson19 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:58 pm
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Re: TWE aero carbon rims
Postby trianything » Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:14 am
sdnelson19 excellent to hear. Almost pulling the trigger now.
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Re: TWE aero carbon rims
Postby Crawf » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:53 am
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Re: TWE aero carbon rims
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Re: TWE aero carbon rims
Postby Crawf » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:31 am
38 or 50mm, for you weight 20/24 is fine. If worried 24/28 max.
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Re: TWE aero carbon rims
Postby Minizian » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:11 pm
I am curious if he actually supply brake pads for his carbon wheels? What kind of brake pads he used? Not to mention if i should get clincher or tubular or both?
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