http://www.bicyclenetwork.com.au/genera ... res/30600/Ross wrote:WIth vehicles it is easy to count them because they are registered but with bicycles it's a lot harder because they aren't registered.
Is it time bicycles were registered?
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Postby JohnJoyner » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:50 am
Another slow news day.... It's like deja vu all over again...Ross wrote:
And why are pedestrians worried... Maybe they shouldn't be wandering aimlessly across the road, against the traffic lights, without looking.
Num nuts blames the cycling fraternity for registration not ever going through... More like cost/benefit analysis done by governments perhaps.
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Postby VRE » Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:22 pm
So where was the bit where a cyclist broke the law? I couldn't really tell from the video, which appeared to show cyclists riding legally. Perhaps I missed the relevant few seconds.Ross wrote:
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Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us -Jerry Garcia
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Postby rkelsen » Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:56 pm
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/infras ... index.aspx
Cyclists deliver $1.43 in economic benefits per kilometre cycled!
That's my answer next time someone asks me why I shouldn't pay rego! I'm saving the government $12k per year... almost $43.5k in the past 4.25 years.
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Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Postby VRE » Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:16 pm
Same here (holds out hand) - c'mon guys, pay up! I want my cut!rkelsen wrote:According to the report mentioned in the vote4cycling blog:
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/infras ... index.aspx
Cyclists deliver $1.43 in economic benefits per kilometre cycled!
That's my answer next time someone asks me why I shouldn't pay rego! I'm saving the government $12k per year... almost $43.5k in the past 4.25 years.
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Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Postby Mulger bill » Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:21 pm
Same BS, different day.
I'll be happy to pay rego WHEN motor vehicle regulation moves to a full user pays model, the smokebox rego would be about 10% of now...
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Postby il padrone » Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:29 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Postby Cheesewheel » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:17 pm
Then apparently no pathological motorist would have anything to complain about or a legitimate excuse for elbow shaving you.
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Postby cowled » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:33 pm
Sorry cheese but there is NO "legitimate excuse for elbow shaving". Not even a little bit! What a silly thing to say.Cheesewheel wrote:
Then apparently no pathological motorist would have anything to complain about or a legitimate excuse for elbow shaving you.
I have given some thought to putting a little sign on the back of my new bike with a little camera symbol and a smiley face. I'm guessing that the only real motivation a bogan would have for giving me some room is if they thought their actions might be on camera.
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Postby il padrone » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:36 pm
Ahh, here it is - Heckler & Koch Multi-tool - ugly beast eh??
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Postby Cheesewheel » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:06 pm
sorry I didn't mean to suggest it was (especially in light of your recent experience) .cowled wrote:Sorry cheese but there is NO "legitimate excuse for elbow shaving". Not even a little bit! What a silly thing to say.Cheesewheel wrote:
Then apparently no pathological motorist would have anything to complain about or a legitimate excuse for elbow shaving you.
I have given some thought to putting a little sign on the back of my new bike with a little camera symbol and a smiley face. I'm guessing that the only real motivation a bogan would have for giving me some room is if they thought their actions might be on camera.
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My comments were more along the lines of actually complying to the (absurd) demand of registering cyclists as some measure to (suppoosedly) insure their safety ..... since even in youtube discussions that surround your recent incident you have this hackneyed argument resurfacing as if it bears some relevence to events at hand.
BTW I too have thought about posting a sign like you suggest (and have even had a road rager back down once he was aware he was on film) ... but I feel it might actually increase motivate them to yell and scream when passing , even if it inspires them to refrain from more blatant displays of dangerous/illegal behaviour
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Postby il padrone » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:13 pm
Cheesewheel wrote:BTW I too have thought about posting a sign like you suggest (and have even had a road rager back down once he was aware he was on film) ... but I feel it might actually increase motivate them to yell and scream when passing , even if it inspires them to refrain from more blatant displays of dangerous/illegal behaviour
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Postby cowled » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:23 pm
Fair enough. Should have given you the benefit of the doubt. The 'no rego - no road' argument is inherently flawed and yet people always bring it up as a reason why bicycles shouldn't be on the road.Cheesewheel wrote: sorry I didn't mean to suggest it was (especially in light of your recent experience) .
My comments were more along the lines of actually complying to the (absurd) demand of registering cyclists as some measure to (suppoosedly) insure their safety
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Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Postby briztoon » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:32 pm
My email to the Sunrise team, not that I expect it to go anywhere.
Dear Sunrise team.
Could you please do a balanced segment on bicycle registration and bicycle use in Australia.
All the current media campaign against "lycra clad" cyclists is doing, is making it more dangerous on the roads for cyclists.
All it does is give the bogans and road rage nutters out there a perceived green light to intimidate and attack cyclists as they believe the Australian media is on their side and legitimising their actions..
Instead of inviting some media industry types to comment, who at best can only provide anecdotal evidence that can not be supported by any real facts or statistics, why don't you invite some proper experts in to comment and discus topics such as; road cycling laws, registration and why it hasn't been introduced, who is at fault for most bicycle versus cars accidents, the cost benefits of cycling and the impact on future urban road projects, Australian road culture compared to countries where the road culture is cycling inclusive, and finally the real statistics and costs of Australia's yearly road toll and vehicular offences.
You could run a week long series with a different topic each day.
Surely if bicycle registration was feasible, an Australian Federal or State government would have introduced it a long time ago.
Here's some reading material.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-na ... 18330.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.smh.com.au/national/bike-rid ... 2qxdg.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.anzpaa.org.au/current-initia ... aster-2013" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.ptua.org.au/myths/petroltax.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Postby trailgumby » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:01 pm
Gold! QFTPercrime wrote:Wish we had troll registration. It could be the form of a congestion tax. For clogging up the interwebs.
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Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Postby cowled » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:11 pm
And this is why I didn't want to do a story with Channel 7.Ross wrote:
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Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Postby Cheesewheel » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:06 pm
In my experience the polite jacket works as a stronger semiotic tool to deliver a desired result.il padrone wrote:Cheesewheel wrote:BTW I too have thought about posting a sign like you suggest (and have even had a road rager back down once he was aware he was on film) ... but I feel it might actually increase motivate them to yell and scream when passing , even if it inspires them to refrain from more blatant displays of dangerous/illegal behaviour
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Re: Is it time bicycles were registered?
Postby JohnJoyner » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:50 am
Love it...kb wrote:I thinking it would be good to have a number plate the other day. Bolted onto a steel rod sticking 1.5m out the RHS.
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