Centurion Carbon-R Build!
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Re: Centurion Carbon-R Build!
Postby QuangVuong » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:19 pm
Anyway, a proper 8 speed cassette arrived, and I finished off the build!
Centurion Carbon-R by Quang.Vuong, on Flickr
IMG_5429 by Quang.Vuong, on Flickr
IMG_5432 by Quang.Vuong, on Flickr
I really like this carbon weave. Its smaller than 3k weave which the Cadex has, and looks quite good.
IMG_5439 by Quang.Vuong, on Flickr
IMG_5441 by Quang.Vuong, on Flickr
IMG_5442 by Quang.Vuong, on Flickr
Parts List
Parts List
Frame and Fork + Headset - $150 - 2095g
VP Bottom Bracket - $15 - 268g
Fulcrum 5 Wheelset with 11-28t cassette - $70 - 4150g
Rubinos - $30 - Weight included above.
Shimano 600 Groupset - $85
Shimano 600 Cranks - 804g
Shimano 600 Aero Pedals - 417g
Shimano 600 FD - 121g
Shimano 600 RD - 226g
Shimano 600 Brakes - 392g
Shimano 600 STIs - 481g
KMC X8 Gold Chain - $20 - 319g
3ttt 25.0mm Seatpost - $15 - 232g
Rolls Saddle - $20 - 367g
Sakae Stem - $15 - 330g
Sakae Bars - $0 - 350g
Chinese Bar Tape and Carbon plugs - $5 - ??g
Cables + Housing - $15 - ??g
Final Weight (weighed as a complete bike) - 9.7kg
Final Cost - $440
Didnt plan on making this a budget build or lightweight build, and it still turned out to be one. Test ride later today, with its first big ride being the next retro ride.
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Re: Centurion Carbon-R Build!
Postby The 2nd Womble » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:16 am
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Re: Centurion Carbon-R Build!
Postby frailer5 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:19 am
BTW, I know your funds are probably limited, but if you value your uploaded pics, take a look at smugmug for $40/year~$5/month.. Unlimited photos, amongst other benefits. No down-rezing during upload; your file size will remain untampered with. No ads./tacky visual pollution.QuangVuong wrote:Pics above will be down til the 18th. 10gb bandwidth from Photobucket was used up.
They are about to re-vamp their whole site on July 31. It's already a really good photo-storage vehicle. Just a thought. I just love to hate photobucket, is all, having been a past user.
I've posted this before, but here's the contrast with photobucket. Pegasus
Mouse over each large pic for enlargement options.
Ricardo Elite, '87 Keith Davis/Pegasus, '92 Team Miyata Ti.
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Re: Centurion Carbon-R Build!
Postby find_bruce » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:11 pm
it went ok - even got it out around the Dunc Gray crit trackThe 2nd Womble wrote:Stunning, stunning ride. How did the maiden voyage go?
Saro28 wrote:On the Crit Track,
QV Maillot jaune (Quang) tour leader throughout
And the Worst Photograher is credited below
http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/Wisem ... ent&page=2
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Re: Centurion Carbon-R Build!
Postby The 2nd Womble » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:12 pm
Huge fan of booted RGers who just can't help themselves
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Re: Centurion Carbon-R Build!
Postby Velo13 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:02 am
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Re: Centurion Carbon-R Build!
Postby QuangVuong » Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:28 pm
The rear wheel will be interesting to build up. It'll be a triplet lacing(6 NDS in 1x, and 12 DS in 2x), with DT plain gauge spokes. Once they are done, this will have a full 600 group.
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Postby rheicel » Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:42 pm
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Re: Centurion Carbon-R Build!
Postby QuangVuong » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:28 pm
I begun lacing up the rear, and I wanna double check if Ive got it all correct before continuing on. This is the DS, with the valve hole oriented up. The leading spoke(left of the valve hole as viewed in the pic) goes over the trailing spoke for the first cross, and goes under the next trailing spoke for the second cross. Is this correct?
This is the NDS. The trailing spokes go under the leading spokes and they do not overlap. Is this correct?
And are the holes I chose to lace the spokes the correct ones? I reckon the holes I chose are correct, as it looks symmetrical on both sides.
I pretty much just had a look at all my wheel and pretty much followed them. If all is well, Ill continue on getting the spokes up to tension, true, then destress, etc. How will I be tensioning up the rear as well(in terms of process)? Theres one spot in the front that is a high spot(where the rim seam is). When I get all the spokes with equal tension, then would that high spot be gone? Or is it normal due to being the rim joint?
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Re: Centurion Carbon-R Build!
Postby Velo13 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:51 pm
Looks fine to me. On the driveside the thinking is that the "pulling spokes" overlap on their last cross. This is so that when they tension, they will will ensure that the spokes are pulled inwards and kept out of the way of the derailleur when you are in the lowest gear.QuangVuong wrote:This is the DS, with the valve hole oriented up. The leading spoke(left of the valve hole as viewed in the pic) goes over the trailing spoke for the first cross, and goes under the next trailing spoke for the second cross. Is this correct?
It is up to you whether you choose to "lace" the spokes under/over each other. It is not technically required for a stable wheel.QuangVuong wrote:This is the NDS. The trailing spokes go under the leading spokes and they do not overlap. Is this correct?
Sometimes it is just impractical. If you want to lace the spokes, you may need to do so by running all the spokes "heads in". I can't really advise on this, as it is really hard to tell without the wheel being in my hands.
Yes, I think so, but can't really see. Tension her up and see. How much have you threaded the nipples onto the spokes?QuangVuong wrote:And are the holes I chose to lace the spokes the correct ones? I reckon the holes I chose are correct, as it looks symmetrical on both sides.
Long story. Get it round and straight first, and then use the tensiometer to change the tensions of pairs of spokes to get to the target tension range.QuangVuong wrote:If all is well, Ill continue on getting the spokes up to tension, true, then destress, etc. How will I be tensioning up the rear as well(in terms of process)?
Nope, highly likely it will still be there. Rim joins usually result in a flat spot or bump. If it is +/- 0.5mm, just ignore it and get the tension right. Tyres have a greater variability than +/- 0.5mm anyway, and by their pneumatic suspending nature they will mask minor bumps and flatspots.QuangVuong wrote:Theres one spot in the front that is a high spot(where the rim seam is). When I get all the spokes with equal tension, then would that high spot be gone? Or is it normal due to being the rim joint?
Now you know why wheelbuilders earn the big bucks (well, the same as poets these days).
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Re: Centurion Carbon-R Build!
Postby QuangVuong » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:24 pm
And on the Centurion
The emptiness of the rear hub on the NDS is crazy.
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Re: Centurion Carbon-R Build!
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Re: Centurion Carbon-R Build!
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Re: Centurion Carbon-R Build!
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Re: Centurion Carbon-R Build!
Postby Velo13 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:00 pm
Just use your tensiometer to determine which spokes have loosened, and resulted in the wheel coming out of true (remember spokes don't tighten themselves, so you can assume that it is loosening/nipples unwinding). Tighten/true up to your target 100kgf-110kgf. Ride and always watch them.QuangVuong wrote:How much further do you suggest I go before retensioning them? I tensioned them to just above 100kgf, and max was about 110kgf, but its a bit off true now.
With the very low spoke count, I would expect that you'll be giving them a little bit of love now and again.
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Re: Centurion Carbon-R Build!
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Re: Centurion Carbon-R Build!
Postby QuangVuong » Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:28 pm
I can tell you a lot about the Cadex though. There isn't an extremely big difference between the Cadex and a steel frame, other than it being a little bit lighter. I don't feel much difference in terms of stiffness.
I'll get my Centurion up and running very soon, by the end of the year, and ride it. Then I'll get back to you on how it fares.
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Re: Centurion Carbon-R Build!
Postby QuangVuong » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:47 pm
90mm Nitto stem with matching 420mm Nitto B115 bars
And after all this time, this bike will be up for sale. As much as I would like to hang onto it, there is no room left. 12 is the limit for me.
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