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Indoor trainers
Postby Jace » Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:35 am
Does anyone have any experience or suggestions?
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Re: Indoor trainers
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby Jace » Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:46 am
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby im_no_pro » Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:57 am
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:46 pm
I think you need to set some more parameters, as the choice is vast.Jace wrote:I am thinking about an indoor trainer just to get a few more Ks up and to mix up the training a bit. It would also help me get some kms in when its wet and dark. I really like the look of the Tacx VR variety (even though they are a bit pricey) because to be honest sitting and staring at a wall and spinning the wheels would bore me stupid.
Does anyone have any experience or suggestions?
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Budget
Type of trainer: Standalone ergobike, or one you fit your bike to (tyre or cassette drive), or rollers to ride on
Resitance control: Basic with no control, variable resistance control, or computer controlled
Usage level
Location/room available and if it needs to be moved/packed away each time or can be left out
Noise and safety considerations
Consideration of other things to go with it: motivational aids (video, music, software), adequate cooling, impact on tyres
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby Jace » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:46 pm
Ok thinking one that you fit the bike to with computer or variable control resistance. Usage level is unknown but lets say 4 hours pw. Will need to be moveable although doesnt need complete packing up. Video and software would be nice. Hadnt considered the tyre impact, how pronounced is that?Alex Simmons/RST wrote: I think you need to set some more parameters, as the choice is vast.
Budget
Type of trainer: Standalone ergobike, or one you fit your bike to (tyre or cassette drive), or rollers to ride on
Resitance control: Basic with no control, variable resistance control, or computer controlled
Usage level
Location/room available and if it needs to be moved/packed away each time or can be left out
Noise and safety considerations
Consideration of other things to go with it: motivational aids (video, music, software), adequate cooling, impact on tyres
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:49 pm
Budget?Jace wrote:Ok thinking one that you fit the bike to with computer or variable control resistance. Usage level is unknown but lets say 4 hours pw. Will need to be moveable although doesnt need complete packing up. Video and software would be nice. Hadnt considered the tyre impact, how pronounced is that?Alex Simmons/RST wrote: I think you need to set some more parameters, as the choice is vast.
Budget
Type of trainer: Standalone ergobike, or one you fit your bike to (tyre or cassette drive), or rollers to ride on
Resitance control: Basic with no control, variable resistance control, or computer controlled
Usage level
Location/room available and if it needs to be moved/packed away each time or can be left out
Noise and safety considerations
Consideration of other things to go with it: motivational aids (video, music, software), adequate cooling, impact on tyres
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby Jace » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:53 pm
I am thinking somewhere around the 1K mark.Alex Simmons/RST wrote:Budget?Jace wrote:Ok thinking one that you fit the bike to with computer or variable control resistance. Usage level is unknown but lets say 4 hours pw. Will need to be moveable although doesnt need complete packing up. Video and software would be nice. Hadnt considered the tyre impact, how pronounced is that?Alex Simmons/RST wrote: I think you need to set some more parameters, as the choice is vast.
Budget
Type of trainer: Standalone ergobike, or one you fit your bike to (tyre or cassette drive), or rollers to ride on
Resitance control: Basic with no control, variable resistance control, or computer controlled
Usage level
Location/room available and if it needs to be moved/packed away each time or can be left out
Noise and safety considerations
Consideration of other things to go with it: motivational aids (video, music, software), adequate cooling, impact on tyres
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:46 am
OK, well if that includes the extras you need for decent indoor training set up (e.g. industrial strength fan, floor mat, maybe a trainer specific wheel etc) then I'd suggest a high quality non resistance-controlled unit like a Kurt Kinetic Road Machine (you control resistance with wheel speed, i.e. use your gears - it has more than enough resistance for most), which will leave you some money to spend on something like PerfPro Studio or Trainer Road subscription (assuming you already have a computer to use with your set up). The other bits n pieces can be had for not much if you shop around, get 2nd hand ebay etc.Jace wrote:I am thinking somewhere around the 1K mark.
Your budget isn't sufficient for a quality unit that controls resistance.
The nearest I suggest considering is a Wahoo Kickr with PerfPro Studio or TrainerRoad or a 2nd hand Computrainer (with same software options).
In either case you'll need a computer to get the most out of them, although it's possible to run them in manual modes without computer control.
If you want to learn more, DCRainmaker has plenty of trainer reviews (not all are readily available in Australia though).
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby Jace » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:47 pm
I quite like the look of both the Kickr and Genius. Few advantages and disadvantages to both I think. Would be good to get a bit of hands on experience with each. I have heard the Tacx system can be pretty buggy although seems to have a better software set up. Dont know much about the Kickr but after looking at it the open ended platform has a lot of potential.
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby Marty Moose » Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:00 am
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Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:23 pm
Great unit, a bit noisy but they are no longer made, so 2nd hand unit or old stock only and no support.Marty Moose wrote:Lemond .......
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby SuperSix » Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:56 pm
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby im_no_pro » Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:01 pm
Depends on how you define quiet. I have a Jetblack Z1 which is a fluid trainer. Much more quiet than the noisy entry level mag trainers, but still makes a bit o' noise.SuperSix wrote:What is a quiet indoor trainer? I have a basic tracx unit and it shakes the whole house and wakes the mrs up.
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby Marty Moose » Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:29 pm
Shame didn't know thatAlex Simmons/RST wrote:Great unit, a bit noisy but they are no longer made, so 2nd hand unit or old stock only and no support.Marty Moose wrote:Lemond .......
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby Ben82 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:38 am
The biggest factor affecting the consistant performance is the PC you are running the software on, while I can not go into details on the PC required I can say it runs flawlessly on a Dell xps 17 laptop.
The genius takes a little time to become familiar with the start up proceedure but once familar you can be calibrated and up and riding inside 5 minutes.
I personally don't use all the different functions and generally just use the catalyst training centre and programe power interval sessions.
Hope this is of some assistance in making your decision.
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby Jace » Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:38 pm
How much did it set you back mate? And did you have a lot of difficulty setting up?Ben82 wrote:I have thpe Tacx I genius and love it as much as one could love an indoor trainer.
The biggest factor affecting the consistant performance is the PC you are running the software on, while I can not go into details on the PC required I can say it runs flawlessly on a Dell xps 17 laptop.
The genius takes a little time to become familiar with the start up proceedure but once familar you can be calibrated and up and riding inside 5 minutes.
I personally don't use all the different functions and generally just use the catalyst training centre and programe power interval sessions.
Hope this is of some assistance in making your decision.
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby Ben82 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:35 pm
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby liamw » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:40 pm
I thought that they were still being made? http://www.lemondrevolution.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; seems to indicate that they still are. Admittedly, the last update was July 1st this year, but that isn't too bad...Alex Simmons/RST wrote:Great unit, a bit noisy but they are no longer made, so 2nd hand unit or old stock only and no support.Marty Moose wrote:Lemond .......
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Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:13 am
Interesting. Seems I'm a bit out of date, thanks for link.liamw wrote:I thought that they were still being made? http://www.lemondrevolution.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; seems to indicate that they still are. Admittedly, the last update was July 1st this year, but that isn't too bad...Alex Simmons/RST wrote:Great unit, a bit noisy but they are no longer made, so 2nd hand unit or old stock only and no support.Marty Moose wrote:Lemond .......
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They went off air for a while, looks like it's been resurrected. I think there were some ownership changes and company stopped operating for a while. I forget the details now. Like I said, a great trainer if you don't mind the noise of a jet engine!
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby jcjordan » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:32 am
Based on the video it is a whole lot quieter.
Looks like I might need go update my trainer
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby moosterbounce » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:24 am
Mine is certainly the best thing I've bought. Can't speak highly enough of the concept tho software has been annoyingly difficult on a duel boot MacBook Pro under both do and Win7. Mr Moo hasn't had any software issues but uses a windows pc.
He picked his up on gumtree for $350.
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Re: Indoor trainers
Postby Rex » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:14 pm
Kurt Kinetic + Trainerroad is ideal imo.
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Re: Indoor trainers
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