First road ride observations
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First road ride observations
Postby digbyj » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:17 am
I have just got into road riding to compliment my passion for mountain biking and assist in maintaining fitness.
I got me a 2H Trek 1400 and am slowly building up some kit and gear (its a bloody expensive hobby!).
Things I found:
- road bikes are fast, and make me want to go faster!
- they, or at least I, feel very unstable going down hill
- MOST cars were actually pretty good
- I found it difficult moving from over to under bars and don't get enough braking power over bars
- my MTB helmet - visor removed - is very noisy
- no granny gear makes some hills very challenging for my little legs!
Anyway there's the confessions of a newbie, if anyone has advice, happy to hear it.
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby macca33 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:15 am
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby Duck! » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:35 am
Changing hand positions will get easier over time. Eventually you'll get to the point where you can virtually slide off the hoods & down to the drops in one quick motion.
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby human909 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:26 pm
Your weight is further forward on a road bike. Braking will be a little slower, but riding shouldn't feel unstable.digbyj wrote:they, or at least I, feel very unstable going down hill
Full braking power is difficult from the hoods, even if you can get enough force from your fingers you are normally nor sufficiently brace for firm braking. Personally I'm always in the hoods if I am braking hard or anticipating the need to brake hard.digbyj wrote:- I found it difficult moving from over to under bars and don't get enough braking power over bars
Is it difficult because transferring your weight is difficult? If so you probably have too much weight on your hands, a stronger core will assist. Or is simply taking your hands off the handlebars difficult?
While some might disagree, suffering in high gears is silly. If you can spare the cash look at getting a cassette/crank with some lower gears.digbyj wrote:- no granny gear makes some hills very challenging for my little legs!
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby birdbrain » Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:47 pm
digbyj wrote:
Things I found:
- road bikes are fast, and make me want to go faster!
- they, or at least I, feel very unstable going down hill
- MOST cars were actually pretty good
- I found it difficult moving from over to under bars and don't get enough braking power over bars
- my MTB helmet - visor removed - is very noisy
- no granny gear makes some hills very challenging for my little legs!
Anyway there's the confessions of a newbie, if anyone has advice, happy to hear it.
Cheers
Give it time and you will get used to your road bike. As it is lighter than the mtb it probably feels a bit twitchy. You can also improve your braking if you have good brake blocks. As for hills check your cassette and if it's a 12-25 for example think about changing it for a 12-28.
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby DoubleSpeeded » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:43 pm
digbyj wrote:Hey Folks,
I have just got into road riding to compliment my passion for mountain biking and assist in maintaining fitness.
I got me a 2H Trek 1400 and am slowly building up some kit and gear (its a bloody expensive hobby!).
Things I found:
- road bikes are fast, and make me want to go faster!
- they, or at least I, feel very unstable going down hill
- MOST cars were actually pretty good
- I found it difficult moving from over to under bars and don't get enough braking power over bars
- my MTB helmet - visor removed - is very noisy
- no granny gear makes some hills very challenging for my little legs!
Anyway there's the confessions of a newbie, if anyone has advice, happy to hear it.
Cheers
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what sort of MTB helmet with visor? im interested as i am looking to buy a Built in visor on a skateboard/urban helmet...
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby briztoon » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:17 pm
Just wait till upgradeitis hits.digbyj wrote:Hey Folks,
I have just got into road riding to compliment my passion for mountain biking and assist in maintaining fitness.
I got me a 2H Trek 1400 and am slowly building up some kit and gear (its a bloody expensive hobby!).
Things I found:
- road bikes are fast, and make me want to go faster!
- they, or at least I, feel very unstable going down hill
- MOST cars were actually pretty good
- I found it difficult moving from over to under bars and don't get enough braking power over bars
- my MTB helmet - visor removed - is very noisy
- no granny gear makes some hills very challenging for my little legs!
Anyway there's the confessions of a newbie, if anyone has advice, happy to hear it.
Cheers
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby grimbo » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:03 pm
- The extra speed (or maybe, feeling of speed) is addictive
- Nowdays I like to go downhill on the drops, I feel more in control (and faster). Relaxed grip and bent elbows helps. Took me a few years to get there (being the nervous type)
- 95% of car drivers are very patient.
- I stayed away from the drops for the first year, then gradually got used to them, now hop back and forth without thinking
- Took me a while to adjust to braking from the hoods. I kind of hang on by the end of my thumbs so I can get my fingers tips as far down the lever as possible.
And the good thing - it's still a blast.
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby digbyj » Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:02 pm
Someone asked about my helmet visor, it's just a mtb helmet which has the little sun visor at the front which is pretty uncool for road riding, I guess it is not aerodynamic. I think you might be thinking of something different?
Thanks for the cassette advice, that sounds like it might be worth looking into. It's pretty hilly where I am, Yarra Valley.
Cheers
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby human909 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:23 pm
What is you current setup and do you have compact crankset? 34 teeth on the small ring up front and 28 on the cassette up back will give let you stay seated and spin away for all but the steepest hills.digbyj wrote:Thanks for the cassette advice, that sounds like it might be worth looking into. It's pretty hilly where I am, Yarra Valley.
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby rustychisel » Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:40 pm
digbyj wrote:Thanks for all the responses, yeah I'll get used to it I reckon.
Someone asked about my helmet visor, it's just a mtb helmet which has the little sun visor at the front which is pretty uncool for road riding, I guess it is not aerodynamic.
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it isn't that. When you're crouched low the visor gets in the way of visibilty. The least you'll suffer is a sore neck from trying to see. Simple, eh?
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby Mulger bill » Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:54 pm
Depends on your setup methinks. I don't have a problem with a visor on any of my steeds but I am more Fred than Eddyrustychisel wrote:digbyj wrote:Thanks for all the responses, yeah I'll get used to it I reckon.
Someone asked about my helmet visor, it's just a mtb helmet which has the little sun visor at the front which is pretty uncool for road riding, I guess it is not aerodynamic.
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it isn't that. When you're crouched low the visor gets in the way of visibilty. The least you'll suffer is a sore neck from trying to see. Simple, eh?
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Re: First road ride observations
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby briztoon » Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:23 pm
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby Dimis » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:48 pm
Haha... Ain't that the truth.briztoon wrote:Just wait till upgradeitis hits.digbyj wrote:Hey Folks,
I have just got into road riding to compliment my passion for mountain biking and assist in maintaining fitness.
I got me a 2H Trek 1400 and am slowly building up some kit and gear (its a bloody expensive hobby!)
Welcome to the addiction... There is no cure. Haha
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby trailgumby » Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:04 am
My Fox Flux has a removable visor but looks goofy like that. Will be getting a road bike helmet today.
I'm going to persevere with the standard gearing for awhile before I make the call on going to compact cranks. It's bloody hard work on the climbs but alternating between seated and out of the saddle and having to stabilise the bike with my hips instead of the bars is amazingly helpful for my core strength and lower back instability. The slightly shorter 172.5mm cranks seem to help my hip angle as well.
But yeah the braking sucks and I won't consider commuting in the wet on it.
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby digbyj » Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:58 am
The visor on the helmet is not an issue for me, someone else mentioned it, my issue was the helmet is noisy! I want a more visible one for traffic anyway.
Also thinking about a mirror now too after reading some other threads, most importantly though, just need to keep riding!
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby TTar » Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:13 am
digbyj wrote: - my MTB helmet - visor removed - is very noisy
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You sure it's not just the wind rushing past your ears?
There's commercial ear flap type products available which velcro on to the helmet's straps to cut out the noise, but if you're handy with a needle & thread you can customise your own -- a nice soft comfortable fabric stitched over re-purposed foam helmet inserts works a treat.
It makes an enormous difference allowing you to hear traffic behind you more clearly, but more importantly you can listen to One Direction with greater fidelity through your earphones.
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby Paul B » Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:16 am
I would just persevere full stop. I reckon you will get used to the gearing fairly quickly if you ride it often enough.trailgumby wrote: I'm going to persevere with the standard gearing for awhile before I make the call on going to compact cranks. It's bloody hard work on the climbs but alternating between seated and out of the saddle and having to stabilise the bike with my hips instead of the bars is amazingly helpful for my core strength and lower back instability.)
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Re: First road ride observations
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Re: First road ride observations
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby trailgumby » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:18 pm
Yep. Pain. Shut up, legs.RonK wrote:It's kinda amusing to see all these avowed mtbers finally discovering what they have been missing out on.
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby visrealm » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:34 pm
+1birdbrain wrote:You can also improve your braking if you have good brake blocks.
The difference between OEM pads and a decent set of aftermarket pads is amazing. I was really disappointed with my brakes on my roadie after being spoilt by discs, but after throwing on a set of Swissstops, it's just as good as my disc roadie.
A cheap upgrade - Well worth it.
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Re: First road ride observations
Postby trailgumby » Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:03 pm
Hoping so. It's hitting a lot of sweet spots for me at the moment with core, legs and glutes, but the bars and brakes setup is still a bit awkward and a source of finger and wrist discomfort.Paul B wrote:I would just persevere full stop. I reckon you will get used to the gearing fairly quickly if you ride it often enough.
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