Do modern Look pedals (Keo Max 2) groan & squeak?
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Do modern Look pedals (Keo Max 2) groan & squeak?
Postby Jean » Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:34 pm
A few years back I swapped from Look classic pedals (a very long association) to Time RXS pedals. I got out of Look because I finally had enough of the cleats forever making noises. The RXS have been great in many ways, but the composite body of my entry level version have had a minor failure (a bit chipped off the toe end 'hook'). Replacement isn't urgent, but I'm looking around at my options. I'd consider Looks again if they have silenced the cleats. Can anyone tell me how they are these days?
Just to forestall the inevitable, I'm not particularly interested in Speedplays (no doubt excellent in many ways, they also seem to have a very high faff factor), and I have this obscure aim of keeping Shimano gear off my roadie (it's all I use on my MTB, so it balances out), so their pedals are out too. I'd like to stay with Time, but the same sort of composite body failures I've just had seem to affecting the newer models too if internet mutters are accurate and I'm a bit wary.
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Re: Do modern Look pedals (Keo Max 2) groan & squeak?
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Do modern Look pedals (Keo Max 2) groan & squeak?
Postby RonK » Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:42 am
Never needed to remove them for cleaning. Just give 'em a good wipe down. Pedals too.Jean wrote:Removing, cleaning and re-installing cleats isn't the worst thing in the world, but I can think of better things to do.
I like the Keos so despite the odd creak I'm not going to change pedals any time soon.
And yes the silicone spray is good.
Btw - make sure you put the grip pad under the cleat when installing them.
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Re: Do modern Look pedals (Keo Max 2) groan & squeak?
Postby jacks1071 » Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:46 am
I don't know why anyone would want to use them, try and get a knee alignment done with a set of Time pedals and you'll understand why.Jean wrote:Hi,
A few years back I swapped from Look classic pedals (a very long association) to Time RXS pedals. I got out of Look because I finally had enough of the cleats forever making noises. The RXS have been great in many ways, but the composite body of my entry level version have had a minor failure (a bit chipped off the toe end 'hook'). Replacement isn't urgent, but I'm looking around at my options. I'd consider Looks again if they have silenced the cleats. Can anyone tell me how they are these days?
Just to forestall the inevitable, I'm not particularly interested in Speedplays (no doubt excellent in many ways, they also seem to have a very high faff factor), and I have this obscure aim of keeping Shimano gear off my roadie (it's all I use on my MTB, so it balances out), so their pedals are out too. I'd like to stay with Time, but the same sort of composite body failures I've just had seem to affecting the newer models too if internet mutters are accurate and I'm a bit wary.
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Shimano, Speedplay & Keywin are all far better choices.
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Re: Do modern Look pedals (Keo Max 2) groan & squeak?
Postby mrgolf » Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:53 am
As a post script, when I went to remove said look pedals from the bike, the pedal shaft cracked in the crank at the end of the thread in two places. I nearly needed to replace the whole crank as a result. It was well wedged in. God knows how the bike shop manager managed to get it out when 3 of his mechs and I had no success.
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Postby stevecassidy » Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:49 pm
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Re: Do modern Look pedals (Keo Max 2) groan & squeak?
Postby winstonw » Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:56 pm
though I use loctite on the threads to stop them tightening or loosening, and to spread load over a larger part of the thread surfaces.
Like Ron, I don't like the Keo grip cleats as the rubbery bits break down pretty quick and fowl the pedal.
Was considering taking them apart to service bearings etc...if anyone has done so, do tell.
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Re: Do modern Look pedals (Keo Max 2) groan & squeak?
Postby Jean » Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:16 pm
Never had any problem with them - no aches or pains. There are buzillions of happy Time users in the world, so as always, YMMV. The only pedals I've had that gave me grief were Look Classics back in the pre-historic days when they shipped with black cleats, which was sorted by changing to Look red cleats ASAP.jacks1071 wrote:I don't know why anyone would want to use them, try and get a knee alignment done with a set of Time pedals and you'll understand why.
Shimano, Speedplay & Keywin are all far better choices.
Shimano: no doubt fine, but as I said I have a somewhat senseless aversion to Shimano on my road bike.
Keywin: looked at them but with a US$200 entry price, meh. Pretty ugly too it must be said.
Speedplay: Heaps of people love 'em, but those cleats just seem a kludge to me, and given how much people around here talk about working on them with new spindles, bodies etc etc, I'm in no hurry to buy into the whole thing. I haven't ruled them out, but they are down the list.
Thanks all for the further info on Keo noisiness - I'll consider them further.
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Re: Do modern Look pedals (Keo Max 2) groan & squeak?
Postby jacks1071 » Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:26 pm
Ever had a "knee alignment" done?Jean wrote:Never had any problem with them - no aches or pains. There are buzillions of happy Time users in the world, so as always, YMMV. The only pedals I've had that gave me grief were Look Classics back in the pre-historic days when they shipped with black cleats, which was sorted by changing to Look red cleats ASAP.jacks1071 wrote:I don't know why anyone would want to use them, try and get a knee alignment done with a set of Time pedals and you'll understand why.
Shimano, Speedplay & Keywin are all far better choices.
Shimano: no doubt fine, but as I said I have a somewhat senseless aversion to Shimano on my road bike.
Keywin: looked at them but with a US$200 entry price, meh. Pretty ugly too it must be said.
Speedplay: Heaps of people love 'em, but those cleats just seem a kludge to me, and given how much people around here talk about working on them with new spindles, bodies etc etc, I'm in no hurry to buy into the whole thing. I haven't ruled them out, but they are down the list.
Thanks all for the further info on Keo noisiness - I'll consider them further.
They may suit you perfectly but lack much of the adjustment you get with other brands.
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Re: Do modern Look pedals (Keo Max 2) groan & squeak?
Postby Jean » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:32 pm
No, not uncomfortable or in pain, and haven't been in the twenty odd years I've been riding, so throwing money at bike fitters has never had much appeal. Maybe they'd make me more 'efficient' or some such, but given I've never raced above B Grade (and that was a long time ago), that benefit seems somewhat unnecessary to me.jacks1071 wrote:Ever had a "knee alignment" done?
They may suit you perfectly but lack much of the adjustment you get with other brands.
As I said, I have no reason to be unhappy with the way that Time RXS pedals and me get along. My only concern is that of the physical durability of the pedals themselves.
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