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Postby gdl_gdl » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:54 pm

Thanks Mike,

BTW, It's Glycogen! :lol: (I have the book in front of me!)

Therefore on a long hard ride I assume that your body can't break down the fat (metabolizing??) quick enough when you run out / are running out of Glycogen ?(hence the need to eat?)

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Postby mikesbytes » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:52 pm

Mr888 wrote:I thought "bonking" occured in bed? :lol:


Only in Australia and lets not forget the kitchen, the hallway the lounge, the...


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Postby pugsly » Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:55 pm

mikesbytes wrote:
Mr888 wrote:I thought "bonking" occured in bed? :lol:


Only in Australia and lets not forget the kitchen, the hallway the lounge, the...


Just so long as you don't bonk when you bonk... :shock:
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Postby sogood » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:05 pm

pugsly wrote:Just so long as you don't bonk when you bonk... :shock:

Double bonk is definitely a bad bonk!
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Postby mikesbytes » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:10 pm

Or too bonked to bonk

I understand that your body does convert fat to energy as you ride, however there is a limitation to how much you can convert in a given time.

BTW, has anyone tried out this site;

http://www.healthstatus.com/

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Postby europa » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:24 pm

Gets complicated real quick doesn't it Mike.

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I still can't believe I have to give up red wine for Adelaide water :shock:
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Postby sogood » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:28 pm

mikesbytes wrote:BTW, has anyone tried out this site;

http://www.healthstatus.com/

Which part of the site? I don't see anything special about the site apart from lots of calculators etc. :roll:
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Postby Mulger bill » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:33 pm

europa wrote:I still can't believe I have to give up red wine for Adelaide water :shock:


That water'll kill you quicker than vino :twisted:
Time to find an Italian doctor :)
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Postby europa » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:37 pm

Mulger bill wrote:
europa wrote:I still can't believe I have to give up red wine for Adelaide water :shock:


That water'll kill you quicker than vino :twisted:
Time to find an Italian doctor :)


I'm not worrying about it killing me. Chateau Cardboard is fattening, Adelaide water isn't ... provided you limit yourself to three chunks a day.

Actually, Adelaide water isn't all that bad these days and yes, I do drink out of the tap. Pretty remarkable when you consider what it's based on and wee Johnny Howard can't understand why us South Australians are wary about giving control of the Murray to a mob of eastern state politicians :roll:

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hmm, maybe I could use Adelaide water as an excuse for not washing my bikes :?
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Postby mikesbytes » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:39 pm

Generic question

Richard, is there a difference between a bottle of red and Adeliade water?

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Postby europa » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:41 pm

mikesbytes wrote:Richard, is there a difference between a bottle of red and Adeliade water?


Yes, a sane person would pay for a bottle of red :D

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Postby gdl_gdl » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:46 pm

Or too bonked to bonk

I've done an interval bike ride today, spent half an hour doing a power weight session at the gym, therefore I'm keeping a bottle of Gatorade at the side of the bed tonight (I hope my wife doesn't see it! :wink: )

She'll spot the HRM soon as well! :lol:

Who said cycling's addictive????
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Postby Halfanewb » Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:15 am

europa wrote:That water'll kill you quicker than vino :twisted:



Early last year the family at home got another dose of the stomach bug that goes around brisbane from time to time every year. I checked with the doctor who says that in most cases it is a bug that slips through in the water due to less than effective water treatment.

Because of this we had a good dual cartridge micro fiber water filter installed under the sink, one filters chemicals and metals the next micro-organisms. Installed with two outlets.. one near the sink the other going to the fridge's cold water dispenser.

Its been worth its weight in gold and I would highly recommend them, the downside is that now i look at any public bubbler as a third world water source :lol:
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Postby JackHenry » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:47 pm

Hi Pugsly

If you carry a GPS while riding (as I often do for Geocaching with a PDA and BT GPSr) then compare distance travelled on your bike computer with that of the GPS odometer. I now have my bike computer within a few metres at 10 km.

It's also interesting to drop your GPS track file into Google Earth. I keep a record of my more interesting rides, and can email them to another rider to view.

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Postby MichaelB » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:58 pm

JackHenry wrote:Hi Pugsly

If you carry a GPS while riding (as I often do for Geocaching with a PDA and BT GPSr) then compare distance travelled on your bike computer with that of the GPS odometer. I now have my bike computer within a few metres at 10 km.

It's also interesting to drop your GPS track file into Google Earth. I keep a record of my more interesting rides, and can email them to another rider to view.

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Now that is getting serious. :shock: I would love to be able to do it, but have enough fun as I do, I don't need to make it even harder or more expensive. Be neat though :D
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Postby pugsly » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:30 pm

Like this?

What a great idea :!: I just need to organised enough to run the gps and start tuning the wheel circumference.

Thanks JackHenry and MichaelB.
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Postby MichaelB » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:40 pm

pugsly wrote:Like this?

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Now that is cooooool :shock:
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Postby mikesbytes » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:43 pm

Trouble with technology is that it tells you things you do not want to know
- how high your heart rate is
- how far you have to go [total distance - distance travelled so, unfortentually I can do the maths in my head]
- how fast you went down that hill [what if you punctured]

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Postby sogood » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:48 pm

Imanewbie wrote:Early last year the family at home got another dose of the stomach bug that goes around brisbane from time to time every year. I checked with the doctor who says that in most cases it is a bug that slips through in the water due to less than effective water treatment.

That's Giardia for ya! 8)
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Postby pugsly » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:49 pm

yeah, and it lets you discuss things with like minded people in disparate geographic locations. :)

Thing is, I want to know all that stuff. It's part of what makes it fun for me. If I'm tracking HR, distance, speed... then I know when I'm improving, and I can set goals. None of if is necessary of course.

I love my toys - which is where this thread started. :)

Luckily the GPS stuff I already had - and use for satnav in the car, so the cost outlay was zip. It just sits in my jersey pocket and logs data.
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Postby sogood » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:53 pm

pugsly wrote:Like this?

What a great idea :!: I just need to organised enough to run the gps and start tuning the wheel circumference.

Nay, that's nothing in comparison to GPSs' tracklog. Typically you can set it to record coordinates at fix distances down to 2-5m or every few seconds. So you can get pretty high resolution track record of your movments.

The problem with GPS units is that they are relatively expensive and typically rugged and heavy for those general purpose units. While bike specific models such as the Garmin Edge 305 is light and feature rich but has a limited battery run time.
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Postby sogood » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:55 pm

mikesbytes wrote:Burn plenty of Glycogen

I prefer to burn Fat. :P
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Postby pugsly » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:05 pm

sogood wrote:Nay, that's nothing in comparison to GPSs' tracklog.

I use this -> http://www.gpstuner.com/ which I think (I don't have my PDA with me) I have set to record every second. I don't know how it compares to the garmin, but it does ok for my purposes.
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Postby sogood » Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:27 pm

pugsly wrote:I use this -> http://www.gpstuner.com/ which I think (I don't have my PDA with me) I have set to record every second. I don't know how it compares to the garmin, but it does ok for my purposes.

Looks like a nice functional unit. As for recording by the second, that'll generate a huge tracklog file, wow! :shock:
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Postby MJF » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:25 am

gdl_gdl wrote:Here's a breakdown of the Fuel Burned per minute based on the HR Zone you are in:- (from the Heart Zones Cycling book by Sally Edwards)

Zone % of Max HR Source of fuel Approx Cals burned per minute
1 50-60 10% C 85% F 5 %P <4
2 60-70 15% C 80% F 5% P <7
3 70-80 55% C 40% F 5% P <10
4 80-90 70% C 25% F 5% P <15
5 90-100 90% C 5% F 5% P <20

C = Carbs, F = Fat, P = Protein



I was scratching my head with this one... then realised I was looking at it the wrong way...

If you look at it in terms of calories provided by each source at different HR's, you get

Code: Select all
          Carbs   Fat    Protein
50-60%     0.4    3.4    0.2
60-70%     1.05   5.6    0.35
70-80%     5.5    4      0.5
80-90%    10.5    3.75   0.75
90-100%   18      1      1


So, while you get the best fat-burn (AT) around 70% HR, you still get 66.9% of that at 90% HR.
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