Questions about purchasing bicycles and parts
When talking frame materials of quality frames, the difference between the weight of all of the material options is only 1kg, so if you prefer a particular material, then why not.
You can buy new quality steel frames, but I'm assuming you want to do a retro bike.
Have a nice day
If the R-1 rule is broken, what happens to N+1?
I'd kill for some-one to give me an 853 road frame - 56cm square if you've got one, for those playing at home.
Peter T. will probably come back with '531 double butted', but as Mike says, if it's a good frame, by a good builder, the weight difference won't be enough to differentiate, so just go with what you can get or with your wallet (if you really want a Nivachrom Colnago).
I don't have as many frames as some, but they cover 531, 4130 and Tange Infinity
Alas MountGower, Reynolds 753 is out of production and has been for some time. Even 531 outlasted it.
The problem with 753 (which like 531 and 653 was a manganese moly, not a chrome moly) was that it due to a combination of it's heat treatment and thin walls was quite brittle and frames did not have a long lifespan compared to 531 which lives forever.
Reynolds current tubesets are chrome moly (853, 725, 631 and 525) and the new ultra expensive 953 which has just been released.
If you are looking for a retro frame, look for Reynolds 531, Columbus SL, SLX, or Tange Prestige, Champion #1 or 2.
If you want a new build custom job:
In oversize TIG, Reynolds 853 or Columbus Zona
In lugged classic style' Reynolds 631 with a 725 fork.
'Steel is Real' - even my 1992ish Repco Superlight in straight gauge Cromo beats the plastic and beercan frames..............
Don't just wait - jump in a grab a reasonable frame and ride it while you search for the 'ideal' one. A 531, Tange or 4130 frame isn't too hard to find and can reasonably easily be fitted with a contemporary groupset and wheels. Who knows, you might just have found something to stick with!
531db came third in our criterium two weeks ago on a 4130 cro-mo frame with mix and match 8-speed components - and a steel Gios came second!
A late-80's / early-90's cro-mo frame with Dura Ace and good wheels would be worthwhile until the 'right' frame came along. Tojo is slowly getting his 9-speed Ultegra make-over - his bottom bracket and cranks are different, rather than significantly better (he did have Biopace chain rings, after all), but the derailleurs definitely shift better than the Exage ones he came with (even though they were the top of the line ones for their time). I expect he will feel even better when I get some shifters and can put better wheels on him.
ps. my secret project (don't tell anyone) is almost ready to start assembly. Did I hear anyone mention Dura Ace and good wheels?
If you want to go all gooey, go to Llewellynbikes. Darrel has a world wide reputation for excellence and my few discussions with him have shown a man with a passion and understanding for bikes the makes you want to throw money at him. My Black Beast would have been a Llewellyn if I'd had more money. Look at those lovely lugs.
be warned, cf lovers might find his thoughts on frames a tad confronting
"ps. my secret project (don't tell anyone) is almost ready to start assembly. Did I hear anyone mention Dura Ace and good wheels?"
No, but in my own little version of a Roswell, New Mexico like secret lab, "The Sturmeynator" is taking shape. This should wipe the smiles off the face of the 20 speed Carbon Freaks as it flies past them (disclaimer - rider ability permitting...).
There was a frame on EBay purporting to be from Reynolds 853.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Reynolds-853-55c ... dZViewItem
Reynolds 853 frame. 55cm built by Paconi in Braeside, Melbourne.1-1/8 internal headset compatible. has never been raced. used for weekend fitness for about 18 months. no cracks, rewelds, bends or rust. it has been through a couple of different colours due to my obsessive nature. this frame is in really good condition with no structural problems what so ever. paint has the odd chip and scratch.
Will that do ?
And what's the significance of 'never been raced'? How on earth is racing a pushbike going to detract from it? The only bit that gets over revved is the engine, and he's not selling himself
Looks alright and the price is OK, but I'd want to inspect the frame before bidding*, not that I will be as it is a little on the small side for me.
*Multiple paint jobs in only 18 months?? Is the paint hiding or not hiding anything?
You'd need to buy a fork as well, a plastic one could be had for as little as $120ish new, but I'd want a real steel item and with a 1.1/8 threadless steerer, that will cost plenty.
Anyway, I've spent more than my monthly allocation on Ebay anyway (2 sets of Look pedals and a pair of retro Detto shoes) and the "Sturmeynator" project awaits my attention.....
"Did you buy any red ones?"
No, two pairs of silver Look 5.1's (Delta, not Keo).
Silver matches more bike colour schemes than the alternatives which were red or black.
But does Red make you go faster?????
For thos retro lovers, another couple of interesting buys (one with Reynolds 531 tubing) ;
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Vintage-Italian- ... dZViewItem
Here is a great old Italian racer being a Rapallo from the 1970,s and a fairly rare item too. It has Reynolds 531 tubing frameset in good order with Gipiemme drop outs. Rims are Campagnolo alloy Gamma Strada with alloy Sansin quick release hubs and reasonable tyres. Gears are 12 speed Suntour Superbe with same cranks and pedals with Zefal straps and Christophe clips. Saddle is Viscount Super Corsa style with alloy post. Headstem is SR with Kusuki Criterium style bars.Headset is alloy Italian. Brakes are Suntour Superbe. Bike rides extermely well and I feel would make a great Eddy Merckx copy. There is of course some wear and tear and paint is reasonable with transfers peeling. Size is Top Tube C to C 21 1/2 inches and seat tube is 22 inches. This is a lovely lightweight bike with All Alloy accessories.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Vintage-Ken-Evan ... dZViewItem
Here is a great old Australian Built Kenevans track bike in overall good order. It has a Columbus Special Tubing frameset with Campagnolo headset. Wheels are Fiamme Cherchi rims with Shimano Dura Ace Bia pista hubs with wired and soldered spokes. Cranks are Sugino AP 165 with Sugino 48 tooth chainring and HIT pedals. Stem is ITM with Cinelli Pista bars. Saddle is Concor Super Corsa Confort with Super Champion stem Rear cog is 16 tooth and chain is Sedis French. This bike originally was raced by Roger Brown one time member of the Whyalla club. Bike rides very well but front wheel appears lumpy, however this could be tyre as they are both a bit on the old and perished side and I think front needs re-gluing. Bike does have some expected wear and tear as it has been raced and has paint chips and some dents but nothing serious to affect frame integrity. Still a perfectly useable track bike or a rare collectable..
I thought Peter might be referring to the cleats.
Burn plenty of Glycogen
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