OLD Bike with 'A" on headstem?
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OLD Bike with 'A" on headstem?
Postby RetroPilot » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:10 am
anyone know what it is?
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Re: OLD Bike with 'A" on headstem?
Postby WyvernRH » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:20 am
Cheers
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Re: OLD Bike with 'A" on headstem?
Postby RetroPilot » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:27 am
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Re: OLD Bike with 'A" on headstem?
Postby ldrcycles » Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:21 am
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Re: OLD Bike with 'A" on headstem?
Postby RetroPilot » Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:22 am
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Re: OLD Bike with 'A" on headstem?
Postby ldrcycles » Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:55 am
Or flipped around for more sporting bikes like this
The ones on yours have been installed "flipped" and then turned up so they're pointing forwards. Very common to see that with drop bars BITD.
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Re: OLD Bike with 'A" on headstem?
Postby WyvernRH » Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:24 am
Looking at the photos I think this is an old racing bike from the (early?) 30's that has been 're-birthed' as a commuter some time later. Note the steep head angle and nicely worked stays and forks. Also the 'tacked on' mudguard stay mounts - quite crudely added later in life I think. The adjustable stem is also unusual, quite light weight compared to the normal 'Major Taylor'. I have seen stems like this in Europe but not in Oz (yet). Might be a hand built one-off of course.
A most interesting find, I hope you can find out the maker but it could have been any one of many small shops that built their own frames. The only maker I can think of is Alcon - there are a couple of marque enthusiasts on the list maybe they can help you there?
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Re: OLD Bike with 'A" on headstem?
Postby RetroPilot » Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:54 pm
me...shrug...???????
one of the rear ones looks like it has snapped off at one point and been replaced with a bit of wrap around..
true that for an old bike, it was far lighter than I expected when I picked it up, lighter than a 70s/80s average 27X1.25, anyway..
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Re: OLD Bike with 'A" on headstem?
Postby marc2131 » Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:48 pm
Not sure if Alcon's Bill Connolly was active in the 1930s. From what I gather he only began working in the 1940s. He was born in 1917.WyvernRH wrote: The only maker I can think of is Alcon - there are a couple of marque enthusiasts on the list maybe they can help you there?
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Re: OLD Bike with 'A" on headstem?
Postby bicyclepassion » Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:30 pm
I think the 'A' bikes have been discussed here before? Two more suggestions are ARROW and ACE.
The rear ends with cam stop holes were not used much after mid 1930s.
'Clip Head' type head fittings were not used much after mid 1930s. Check for 30 tpi or 24 tpi locknut. 30 tpi is earlier.
I think that particular type of adjustable stem was made by BSA. Quite rare to see in Australia.
If it was built for 27" wheels, it will be mid 1930's or later.
Any clue as to whether it came from Melbourne or Sydney, which part of the country was it found?
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Re: OLD Bike with 'A" on headstem?
Postby RetroPilot » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:31 pm
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Re: OLD Bike with 'A" on headstem?
Postby WyvernRH » Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:53 pm
You could have flipped it without bothering the group.
No more info from me...
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Re: OLD Bike with 'A" on headstem?
Postby RetroPilot » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:14 pm
Wouldnt the fact that someone was selling something mostly obscure/unknown to them be one primary rational reason for seeking info?
I didnt realise that Id breached ethics or trangressed some ideological Ghostbuster sign...
As for your resolution-Got it.
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Re: OLD Bike with 'A" on headstem?
Postby Clydesdale Scot » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:20 pm
so he doesn't know some of us have a dislike for those who are soliciting info for a quick sale.
Had it the quick sale been disclosed upfront then Munga would have given it a full and frank appraisal, sight unseen.
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Re: OLD Bike with 'A" on headstem?
Postby ldrcycles » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:24 pm
Fair enough on not knowing the "rule", I don't think I've ever seen it actually written down anywhere, that's just the way it is.
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Re: OLD Bike with 'A" on headstem?
Postby Tinker » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:24 pm
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Re: OLD Bike with 'A" on headstem?
Postby WyvernRH » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:28 am
OK, a tad too snappy a response from me there maybe but... I dislike wasting half an hour or more of my spare time scanning the web, flipping through my magazines and books to find info for someone who has no interest in the bicycle except as a profit motive. Basically I'm doing Mr RetroPIlot's research for him for free (more sucker me, I know... ).RetroPilot wrote:I never realised Id 'bothered' the group.
Wouldnt the fact that someone was selling something mostly obscure/unknown to them be one primary rational reason for seeking info?
I didnt realise that Id breached ethics or trangressed some ideological Ghostbuster sign...
No objection to folk buying/selling bikes, that's the life blood of the retro scene but It is only polite to say upfront you are only interested in flipping the item, not keeping. Nor was the fact this item was for sale mentioned at any point.
I think from now on, if the knowledge is not between my ears and can flow to the keyboard, I doubt I'll bother going looking for it unless I know the poster (by reputation at least )
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