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New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby BillyBoy85 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:27 pm
My name is Bill. I am looking to purchase a new bike. I won't be using it to commute to work as I am a tradesman. I will be aiming for 3 ride a week. This will consist of bike paths and some dirt tracks. I will be mainly going to westefolds park, along the eastern freeway track and if I get the chance to lysterfield. I was looking at a Reid racer, but I am starting to think it won't be the right bike for me. Was thinking a hybrid would be the way to go. What do you people think and what sort of bike should I look at? I am thinking of spending up to $1000 but would rather spend a bit less. I was looking at Giant and Merida bikes. My brother will be buying one at the same time, so hopefully we can get a bit knocked off the price.
Any advice and ideas on what to buy will be much appreciated.
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby Duck! » Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:16 pm
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby mattwilkinson » Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:40 am
You'll be able to find last years model pretty cheaply soon if any of your local bike shops stock giant.
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby Duck! » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:15 am
No you won't, they're all gone.mattwilkinson wrote: You'll be able to find last years model pretty cheaply soon if any of your local bike shops stock giant.
NOTE: The shop I work in sells Giant bikes.
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby rjk » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:40 am
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby ShogunHy » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:55 am
Take a look at http://www.bikeexchange.com.au and also remember to budget for clothing / gloves / accessories as you'll be able to ride further and more comfortably with the right gear...
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby jacks1071 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:43 pm
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby rodneycc » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:57 pm
I'm not sure of your sizing or location (Lysterfield in Knox?) but something like this I think would be good for you...
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby BillyBoy85 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:32 pm
Are Tektro brakes any good? I'll buy a brand new bike as it will end up like my old one and I will hold on to it for the next ten years. Just have to make sure i buy the right bike and right size for my height.
Thanks for the advice duck, I will be looking into Giant Talon range a bit more now.
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby Calvin27 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:42 pm
- I tried the slick tyres on 29er. It works well, but eventually you get sick of changing tyres all the time and just put off certain rides. I had commuter slicks on my 29er and didn't go mountain biking for a few months mostly because I couldn't be botherered changing tyres (admittedly it was winter too).
- I also tried riding paved tracks with MTB (race kings with short blocks) not ideal and you will wear them out very fast. You have to change tyres.
- Suspension is a must (unless you are hardcore) for lysterfield type riding. It's a liability on paving. Yes, you can lock it out but at the price you are looking at, I have (unfounded) concerns the forks will explode after prolonged use. Also it means you have uneccessary weight.
- The other option is 2 wheelsets. I created a thread about swapping wheelsets on BNA and concluded you are probably better off with 2 bikes. You will need to make sure the casettes for each wear evenly (or have a chain for each) and make sure the hubs are the same model as this assists with the disc brake alignment. Expect the wheel to cost you quite a bit since you will have to buy the exact hub not just what is on sale, then add discs and casette too. Not sure how well the discs and brake pads will talk to each other if you keep switching them around either.
A huge part of this depends on what you expect to ride. By Lysterfield, I assume single track with the occasional log clearance. If you are just doing fire trails stuff hybrid will do just find. Or better yet get a cross bike. If you plan to do a combination of paved trails and singel track - sorry to say you will need 2 bikes or have patience to keep changing tyres/wheels.
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby rodneycc » Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:30 pm
I know a few people that run two wheelsets with cassettes and disc brakes that they change depending on the type of riding they do. They are a bit more professional than me but it sounds like a reasonable idea. Again it depends on your circumstances but I preferred to just go the one wheelset with an in-between tread tyre like the Schwalbe Marathon and the additional road bike (for my speed fix!).
Without really knowing the Tektro brake range, I think Tektro are generally down the low end of town with bikes these days that I have seen. But with saying that I saw a lot of Giant Defy road bike range have them (the dual pivot ones) so they can't be all that bad. Note that you wont get much better brakes than on the Talon 29er. The Shimano Hydraulics are the best I've ever come across on any type of bike (super in all types of weather). My old Schwinn Hybrid had Tektro brakes that were OK (but it was a pretty average bike that one that put me off Hybrids for good!).
Anyway all the best in your hunt.
Cheers, Rod.
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby rodneycc » Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:12 pm
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby rodneycc » Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:17 pm
I liked the Cell 2013 X2 City Bike and the Cell 2013 SS300 Fitness (but with wider tyres).
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby Gordonhooker » Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:12 pm
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby Gordonhooker » Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:18 pm
Calvin27 wrote:Hard to get a bike that does lysterfield and (paved) trails well. It's the typical n+1 scenario brewing. Some things to note:
- I tried the slick tyres on 29er. It works well, but eventually you get sick of changing tyres all the time and just put off certain rides. I had commuter slicks on my 29er and didn't go mountain biking for a few months mostly because I couldn't be botherered changing tyres (admittedly it was winter too).
- I also tried riding paved tracks with MTB (race kings with short blocks) not ideal and you will wear them out very fast. You have to change tyres.
- Suspension is a must (unless you are hardcore) for lysterfield type riding. It's a liability on paving. Yes, you can lock it out but at the price you are looking at, I have (unfounded) concerns the forks will explode after prolonged use. Also it means you have uneccessary weight.
- The other option is 2 wheelsets. I created a thread about swapping wheelsets on BNA and concluded you are probably better off with 2 bikes. You will need to make sure the casettes for each wear evenly (or have a chain for each) and make sure the hubs are the same model as this assists with the disc brake alignment. Expect the wheel to cost you quite a bit since you will have to buy the exact hub not just what is on sale, then add discs and casette too. Not sure how well the discs and brake pads will talk to each other if you keep switching them around either.
A huge part of this depends on what you expect to ride. By Lysterfield, I assume single track with the occasional log clearance. If you are just doing fire trails stuff hybrid will do just find. Or better yet get a cross bike. If you plan to do a combination of paved trails and singel track - sorry to say you will need 2 bikes or have patience to keep changing tyres/wheels.
The perfect solution to the n+1 problem is to keep buying bikes until either the shed is full or the wife threatens to kill you...
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby rodneycc » Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:54 pm
Might be a good bike the Seek but those gawd awful white tyres would be enough to put me off!Gordonhooker wrote:Duck knows best - but maybe a 2014 Giant Seek I like the sound of the 2014 Seek 1. Lots of pavement work and a some off-road without the noisy tyres when on paved tracks.
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby Duck! » Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:32 pm
Couple of runs along the Yarra Trails & they won't be white any more.rodneycc wrote:Might be a good bike the Seek but those gawd awful white tyres would be enough to put me off!Gordonhooker wrote:Duck knows best - but maybe a 2014 Giant Seek I like the sound of the 2014 Seek 1. Lots of pavement work and a some off-road without the noisy tyres when on paved tracks.
Although not exceptionally technical, Lysterfield is very "chattery", which would get very tiresome very quickly on a fully rigid bike, even one with big fat balloon tyres. Front suspension at least is highly desirable.
Now comes an unavoidable foray into the wheel size debate that's plaguing MTB circles..... The Talon series is available in both 29" and 27.5" wheel sizes. Given the OP's suggested riding, I'd lean towards the 29er. The bigger wheels give a slightly "taller" gear range and improved rolling efficiency, better suited to open road & path riding than smaller wheels, and more stability, beneficial if the rider is new to off-roading. The trade-off is that they're not as nimble through corners. Another consideration is tyre availability; 29er rims are basically the same thing as 700c hybrid rims (same diameter, wider profile than roadie rims), which really opens up tyre choice - you can run anything from 2.2" wide knobbies, down to 28mm slicks. 27.5" is a dedicated MTB size, so there really isn't anything available in smoother path/road-friendly rubber.
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby Gordonhooker » Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:50 am
That was one of the things I liked about until you said thatrodneycc wrote:Might be a good bike the Seek but those gawd awful white tyres would be enough to put me off!Gordonhooker wrote:Duck knows best - but maybe a 2014 Giant Seek I like the sound of the 2014 Seek 1. Lots of pavement work and a some off-road without the noisy tyres when on paved tracks.
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
Postby rodneycc » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:28 am
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Re: New to forum and looking to purchase a bike
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