all comments are meant to be taken literallyAKO wrote:Yep, all jetski riders are maniacs.jules21 wrote:the campervan was towing a jetski. you're dealing with someone who is a specialist in being dangerous and inconsiderate. as much as i dislike close passes, you have to admire a professional in their field of expertise.
All cyclists run red lights.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby AKO » Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:22 pm
When written that way there is no other way to take it. A may have helped. Just an observation.jules21 wrote:all comments are meant to be taken literallyAKO wrote:Yep, all jetski riders are maniacs.jules21 wrote:the campervan was towing a jetski. you're dealing with someone who is a specialist in being dangerous and inconsiderate. as much as i dislike close passes, you have to admire a professional in their field of expertise.
All cyclists run red lights.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby FuzzyDropbear » Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:02 pm
I'd like to thank Crawford's Pharmacy for deciding that it was important to lane split with me through a dual lane roundabout while I was in the left wheel track doing approx 30 - 35 km/hr (same speed as traffic usually). There was no other traffic so they could've changed lanes, but nope, too much hassle for their employees, they'd rather shave a cyclist. Far out that was close.... Oh well, hopefully I have better luck tonight.
Looks like I won't be shopping there anymore.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
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http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/Prod/P ... report.pdf
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Lukeyboy » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:30 pm
What made it even funnier was that it could have been avoided if he had just used the bit of road before and then merged into the turn right lane (the road he came off was a left turn only )
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby wellington_street » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:39 pm
Just more examples of the attitude of driving being a right and not a privilege that you only get if you do it safely and legally.biker jk wrote:An estimated 150,000 unlicensed drivers in NSW and a parliamentary committee's response is to reduce penalties.
http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/Prod/P ... report.pdf
That said, this is the major issue imo:
Bit pointless having suspensions/disqualifications if drivers continue to drive anyway. Needs to be enforced.Stakeholders also highlighted that long disqualification periods do not necessarily act as a
deterrent to re-offending, with studies demonstrating that a number of unauthorised drivers
continue to drive.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby wellington_street » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:41 pm
He disobeyed this sign, evidently:Lukeyboy wrote:Came across this moron in the truck with a woodchipper on the back. Blocked both the inbound lanes with cars using the bike lane/road he came off to get past. Traffic banked up as a result. Cars and trucks waiting were beeping there horn and the driver was getting pissed off as the outbound peak hour traffic kept on coming
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Lukeyboy » Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:05 pm
Easy to do. I mean. Look how small it is. You can barely make out that squiggly line.wellington_street wrote:He disobeyed this sign, evidently:Lukeyboy wrote:Came across this moron in the truck with a woodchipper on the back. Blocked both the inbound lanes with cars using the bike lane/road he came off to get past. Traffic banked up as a result. Cars and trucks waiting were beeping there horn and the driver was getting pissed off as the outbound peak hour traffic kept on coming
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby BianchiCam » Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:57 pm
Yep the first one with the driver on a phone is a 'bike lane' not too bad for a crappy hard shoulder coming down Mt Martha Hill.
The garbage truck had a lane next to him with no traffic. Was just a lazy pass that was totally unnecessary.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby jasonc » Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:59 pm
worth reporting the second one? that looked seriously close at that speedBianchiCam wrote:Speaking of which, something from today..
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby il padrone » Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:11 am
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby jasonc » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:48 am
it's unfortunate as there's some great undulating roads around thereil padrone wrote:It's outer fringe Mornington Peninsula, not a place reknowned for cyclist awareness and consideration. And the troublesome ones are plumbers vans and tradie Hiluxes with trailers, and a smattering of the foolish Fangios. All of which is a feature of the road environment in such areas. The rural-urban fringe never has been a pleasant place to ride.
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Postby BianchiCam » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:38 am
Ride safe,
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby find_bruce » Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:01 am
Sadly, no, not even thenBianchiCam wrote:Does it take getting killed or seriously injured before action is taken in this country?
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby il padrone » Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:44 am
Riding the main roads on the rural-urban fringe could be equated to the 'champagne cork'. Inside the bottle (the urban area) things are not too bad, if a bit high pressure. Outside the bottle (the countryside) it's mostly good, but get near the cork (the fringe) and you'd better be ready to jump.jasonc wrote:it's unfortunate as there's some great undulating roads around there
The minor roads and backtracks in the rural-urban fringe tend to be much better for riding eg. the roads up in the hills at Red Hill and Main Ridge, and around the back of Mt Martha towards Balnarring and Shoreham.
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Postby trailgumby » Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:11 am
NO laws broken. Bike was in bike lane (or zone if unsigned), car was in lane.jasonc wrote:BianchiCam wrote:Speaking of which, something from today..
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worth reporting the second one? that looked seriously close at that speed
Pathetic? Yes. But that's the current state of the road rules, even if juries were inclined to enforce them. It's why we need a 1-1.5m passing rule.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby myforwik » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:41 pm
Even if there was a passing rule, it would almost certainly not apply to a cyclist in a second lane of traffic, or in the shoulder.trailgumby wrote:NO laws broken. Bike was in bike lane (or zone if unsigned), car was in lane.jasonc wrote:BianchiCam wrote:Speaking of which, something from today..
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worth reporting the second one? that looked seriously close at that speed
Pathetic? Yes. But that's the current state of the road rules, even if juries were inclined to enforce them. It's why we need a 1-1.5m passing rule.
The absolute best thing they could do for safety, that is cheap and easy, is paint a green line down the middle of every single lane on every road. Road painting is surprisingly cheap. Make every single road clearly show cyclist over take width. This could be done slowly over the next 10 years as lane markings are updated and re-painted. It would be simple and clear cut if a driver was over the line or not.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby il padrone » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:59 pm
And this green line would indicate what? Where a cyclist should be riding I guessmyforwik wrote:The absolute best thing they could do for safety, that is cheap and easy, is paint a green line down the middle of every single lane on every road. Road painting is surprisingly cheap. Make every single road clearly show cyclist over take width.
Because I don't regard a half a lane as anything like the sort of space required for safe overtaking. If drivers can manage to change lanes to overtake a slow car or truck, then they can damn well do the same for a cyclist. The half-lane, close-shave, lane-splitting, buzz-by is a misguided and unsafe technique that Australian drivers seem to have adopted, partly because cyclists in the past have been in such small numbers and lacking in road confidence that we did not claim the lane. This set in train a pattern of behaviour by default. It rarely ever happened to us in Italy. Only the drivers of certain German luxury cars tended to do it.
Ride wider and persuade the bludgers to overtake safely - in the next lane
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby leighthebee » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:44 pm
Just goes to show you can't please everyone. There more than likely because of traffic complaints or previous incidents...Ignoto wrote:Poor form by the QPS. Robbie McEwen tweeted this picture to them earlier today:
Of all people, surely Robbie could avoid this brief obstacle in his daily ride. Especially when it's presence is of direct benefit to his safety.....
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Ross » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:02 pm
I saw that tweet by Robbie too. He had a good reply to someone else that had a similar commentleighthebee wrote:
Just goes to show you can't please everyone. There more than likely because of traffic complaints or previous incidents...
Of all people, surely Robbie could avoid this brief obstacle in his daily ride. Especially when it's presence is of direct benefit to his safety.....
"so according to your logic it is ok for cyclists to rack their bikes in the middle of the road….cars can go around"
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