Rebuilding my Steelie - Carbon forks or Cro-Mo
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Rebuilding my Steelie - Carbon forks or Cro-Mo
Postby uMP2k » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:12 pm
Am I beating my head against a brick wall here? I really want to stay with a threaded steerer so I can use the lovely gooseneck stem I have. On top of that I had really set my heart on carbon not just for the weight saving but also for the look of a nice beefy black front fork to contrast with the rest of the frame which is in yellow.
Now if I cannot get a Carbon one then I guess it is back to Steel but which Steel, that is the question.
Any comments/opinions? Or maybe somebody just happens to have the set of forks of my dreams (carbon or steel) that they are not using and willing to sell to a good home...
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carbon forks
Postby silverlight » Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:42 pm
Im after a carbon 1inch fork for my colnago, the bike shop said i can get an aftermarket one new for about $500-700 (im not sure if this is what they go for or he was just ripping me off), Im not sure where they said they were going to get it as it was being brought in from interstate but i didnt want to spend that kind of money at the time but i have seen a few go on ebay at times much cheaper, I would ring around a few bike shops im sure they can get their hands on one
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Re: carbon forks
Postby uMP2k » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:51 pm
Yikes!!!silverlight wrote:... an aftermarket one new for about $500-700...
Now that is definitely out of the price range I am looking at
If it was a usual 1 1/8 inch I was after I could easily pick one up on ebay for less than $100, but a 1 inch - now that is another story.
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Postby LuckyPierre » Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:12 am
A couple of companies make 1" threadless forks. I know that Columbus make a 1" version of a couple of their forks, as do Reynolds. I'm pretty sure that Kinesis make threaded versions (I've got a rather bashed around one).
It might be worth contacting a bike builder, rather than just your lbs - give Paul Hillbrick a try. I know that he's on the other side of the country to you, but he might be able to help.
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Postby uMP2k » Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:23 pm
It seems that I could probably get a new one from a couple of manufacturers but the price is just too much for what I have in mind. Really was hoping to get away with spending less than $100.
It is mainly the weight issue that is stopping me from going with the original forks. I know you might not think that the extra weight in my old forks would be worth the hassle but they really are VERY heavy when compared to the carbon forks on my other roadie and I am guessing I could save about half a kilo or more.
Sounds crazy when I put the figures down like that and I know it is probably more pyschological than anything, but damn I want some lighter forks!
***EDIT***
Okay now I am thinking: what about classic chromed steel - bugger the weight
Just seen these on ebay. I wonder how they would go with yellow...
Am I confused or what? Just thinking out load in this thread!
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Postby munga » Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:29 pm
also, make sure the steerer is as long as your existing forks.
i bought a very nice pair of emilio bozzi forks, but they only fit my 53cm repco. i really hoped they would fit my lemond, but no.
personally, i would wait for the right ones, but in the meantime, paint up the ones you have and get that machine back into service!
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Postby uMP2k » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:55 pm
munga wrote:check the weight with the seller. they might not be any lighter than your original forks.
also, make sure the steerer is as long as your existing forks.
i bought a very nice pair of emilio bozzi forks, but they only fit my 53cm repco. i really hoped they would fit my lemond, but no.
personally, i would wait for the right ones, but in the meantime, paint up the ones you have and get that machine back into service!
All good points.
I think I will probably do just as you suggest wack the original forks back on and keep an eye out for the Carbon or classic Steel forks that I want.
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Postby kukamunga » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:14 pm
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Postby uMP2k » Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:08 pm
Yet another good idea, which I will follow!kukamunga wrote:Weigh your original forks on some kitchen scales or at your local PO. I can't imagine they'd be much more than 850g. If they are much more than that, I might have some 1" steel forks around the 800-850g mark that might suit your needs, in either older lugged crown style, or newer unicrown style
Depending on the weight I might be in touch about what you have on hand.
Thanks.
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Postby uMP2k » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:49 pm
Of course I did want threaded, but I think that is pretty pie in the sky!
Although, maybe I could cut a thread into the (alloy) steerer.....? Hmmmm
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Postby Mikka » Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:11 pm
Devil's advocate here ... how long do ya' think it would last before it got chewed out and fell out ...? My experience with a fine thread in alloy .... Although ... if you used locktight ...... just that you'd have to heat the bugger to get it off ...uMP2k wrote:Although, maybe I could cut a thread into the (alloy) steerer.....? Hmmmm
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Postby uMP2k » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:59 pm
don't worry I would not really cut a thread in it!Mikka wrote:Devil's advocate here ... how long do ya' think it would last before it got chewed out and fell out ...? My experience with a fine thread in alloy .... Although ... if you used locktight ...... just that you'd have to heat the bugger to get it off ...uMP2k wrote:Although, maybe I could cut a thread into the (alloy) steerer.....? Hmmmm
Stephen
If I go down this route then I will have to find a nice chorus threadless headset and a reasonably classic looking threadless stem.
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Postby singletracking » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:26 pm
Why not - there are plenty of Al headset top caps around (yeah OK - forged...). A good technician should be able to cut a decent thread for you (or am I way off the mark here?).uMP2k wrote: don't worry I would not really cut a thread in it!
For that, I suggest a lugged (Nitto) Rivendell stem, though that would really blow the budget!uMP2k wrote: If I go down this route then I will have to find ... a reasonably classic looking threadless stem.
(cant be bothered hyperlinking... this works)
http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/ha ... uct=16-148
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Postby Lark2004 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:59 am
It does nothing for the looks, functional, yes, but it looks out of place. Nothing suits an old steel frame as much as an old stem.
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Postby kukamunga » Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:09 am
You do realise the alloy steerer will be much thicker walled than a steel one? You could safely cut a thread in it, but finding a 5/8" / 15.9mm quill stem might be harder than finding hen's teethuMP2k wrote:Okay - now it looks like I might have found some CF forks with a 1inch threadless steerer that might just about do me.
Of course I did want threaded, but I think that is pretty pie in the sky!
Although, maybe I could cut a thread into the (alloy) steerer.....? Hmmmm
Stephen
If you can find an 1 1/8" threadless stem with an internal pinch-bolt steerer clamp (and the right size bar clamp, of course), it would look a lot neater and 'retro' than your majority of external clamp bolt ones (you'll still need a 1 1/8" - 1" shim).
I don't think I've ever seen a 1" threadless stem, but I'm sure that they probably exist..... somewhere. That'd possibly be your neatest solution
EDIT: Actually, Syncros might've made a 1" threadless stem back when.....
BTW what bar clamp size you running? 25.0mm, 25.4mm, 25.8/26.0mm,
or 31.8mm? Something you need to take into consideration.....
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Postby kukamunga » Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:34 am
I think you're stuck with steel, then. Be sure it takes a common 22.2mm (7/8") quill, and is not 22.0mm specific (22.2mm won't fit in)!uMP2k wrote:I agree - that is why I am really after a threaded steerer.Lark2004 wrote: It does nothing for the looks, functional, yes, but it looks out of place. Nothing suits an old steel frame as much as an old stem.
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Postby LuckyPierre » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:43 am
Thanks for finding the website.
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Postby kukamunga » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:55 pm
I don't know what I was on when I wrote this. Just a month or two ago, I purchased a 1" threadless stem from Dean Woods (along with one of the quill stems and some cheap 1" threadless headsets). It's a rather hideous looking 'TranzX' jobbie, 10 degrees x 110mm, but it might well convert one of my retro steel bikes to a modern day headset, aiding in handlebar changeover and set-up. I do have forks to suit with x-long 1" steerers.kukamunga wrote:I don't think I've ever seen a 1" threadless stem, but I'm sure that they probably exist..... somewhere. That'd possibly be your neatest solution....
You still haven't told us how much your steel forks weigh?
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