eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby Dezza » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:48 pm
Carbon forks and aheadset rather than quill stem are much more modern than the frame. All that black spoils the vintage look IMHO.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby QuangVuong » Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:31 pm
Another example is this dude. He's posted a thread here on BNA and the fork steerer is bent out badly. The bike aint worth the asking price, and he doesnt state the issues it has.
I thought I had posted this link, but I guess I forgot to.
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/granvill ... 1034146162" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I assumed it was Ironman Master from what I could see. Stuck around for a few weeks and he relisted wih a lower price, and I grabbed it. Turned out to be the Triathlon Master(same thing, but export model hence a different name). I believe it is 100% original, from the Nitto stem and B115 bars, 6400 group, Turbo saddle, and Araya CTL-370 rims. Kinda weird geometry though, being a 57cm ST(c-c), and a 59cm TT(c-c).
Another Iroman Master with a broken rear wheel. But cheap, and what looks to be 600 arabesque.
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/summerla ... 1034288477" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Anyway, I spotted this up on ebay a week ago again. Bought it for $85, and tries to resell for $500 bidding or $1000 BIN only weeks after he buys it. Messaged himi asking about buying it for the same price he bought it for, but he tells me that the guy at his LBS told him its a rare bike, and he'd be better off selling it to buy a newer bike. Now after my message, he decides to keep it.
QuangVuong wrote:Did someone here buy this Look? I think its a Bernard Hinault Look(Reynolds 653). The Tri A is still available for $85 though.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby rebilda » Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:29 pm
I could be mistaken (hope I am), but, look closely at the top tube, half way between the rear brake cable securing point and the head set. Is there a bend there??Dezza wrote:Where is the bend? It's an Alan frame i.e. bonded - hence the flaring of the tubes at the ends which you can see. something else I'm missing?
Carbon forks and aheadset rather than quill stem are much more modern than the frame. All that black spoils the vintage look IMHO.
I am aware of the Alan frame construction and was pretty excited when I saw this. Then I thought I saw a bend in the frame after realising the forks had been changed to a modern Carbon set up, with a modern threadless headset and clamp on stem. It poured cold water all over my enthusiasm.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby Kermit TF » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:37 pm
Please sell it to me !
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby barefoot » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:23 pm
Hehe.grantw wrote:You don't see nice tandems everyday so here one is
I used to have a Gitane tandem. Mixte-style rear. Random Mafac and Simplex bits. No reason to think it was anything other than gaspipe.
Didn't notice until we'd been riding it for years that the tubes were creased just behind the head tube, which combined with the mismatched fork and 27" front wheel (inch size on a French bike?! Sacre bleu!) makes it pretty obvious that she'd taken a pretty solid hit in the front. *shrug*. Still rode okay. A bit twitchy on the steering when riding solo, but I figured that was just a fact of tandem geometry.
In other news... did anybody on here grab this one?
I had a watch on it, but it came time when I was in a theatre with my phone on silent, and I forgot all about it. Only one bidder. Would have been an interesting one to have in the collection... availability of front tyres aside...
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby find_bruce » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:04 am
grantw wrote:You don't see nice tandems everyday so here one is
You get a huge variation in tandems, from clunkers to race machines, with most of them at the gaspipe end. This Gitane tandem appears to be a reasonable touring bike, a drag brake at the rear and cantis up front, brakes and an eccentric bottom bracket. 5 speed, so my guess is that it is 85-86 - a 1984 Rallye had the chainrings at the front & by 1986 had the chainrings at the stoker. By 87 they dropped the horizontal tube on the Rallye. Still likely to be hi-tensile tubing though.barefoot wrote:Hehe.
I used to have a Gitane tandem. Mixte-style rear. Random Mafac and Simplex bits. No reason to think it was anything other than gaspipe.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby QuangVuong » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:10 am
Whats a Centurian? Looking at the components and bike manufacture year(mainly 89 and 90 parts and bike), I do believe its all original, and I plan on keeping it like that. Unless you wanna pay half a grand for itKermit TF wrote:Quang, that saddle looks terrible on the centurian...it doesnt suit.
Please sell it to me !
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby akq » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:08 pm
Isnt that just the way it goes,someone buys a bargain and then sells it (or tries to) for what its actually worth,cant see anything wrong with that
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby koen » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:08 pm
It wasn't such a rough diamond back then.QuangVuong wrote: Whats a Centurian? Looking at the components and bike manufacture year(mainly 89 and 90 parts and bike), I do believe its all original, and I plan on keeping it like that.
haha see what I did there?
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby Clydesdale Scot » Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:31 pm
that what the seller says, so must be true.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby rebilda » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:08 pm
Clydesdale Scot wrote:Restore it and you have a classic Malvern Star worth mega bucks!
that what the seller says, so must be true.
LOL!!!!
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby koen » Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:08 pm
Yeah thats one of my favourites. He couldn't possibly be sending up any other sellers on gumtreeClydesdale Scot wrote:Restore it and you have a classic Malvern Star worth mega bucks!
that what the seller says, so must be true.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby dubrat » Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:49 pm
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby wqlava1 » Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:07 pm
I thought the seller was very honest when he said "highly priced" rather than "highly prized"dubrat wrote:Ok then
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby ldrcycles » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:23 pm
Is anyone else noticing the lack of an 'a' in the decals?dubrat wrote:Ok then
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/spreyton ... 1034953203" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby Clydesdale Scot » Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:02 am
it is for that guy in the bookshopldrcycles wrote:Is anyone else noticing the lack of an 'a' in the decals?
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby frailer5 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:39 pm
Quad chainrings, 6-speed rear, perhaps?find_bruce wrote:Seller is not good at maths - 2 gears on front & 7 (maybe at rear = "24 speed"
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby barefoot » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:40 pm
Yeah, mine was half decent as well - certainly not like a rental beach cruiser POS - but still most likely gaspipe.find_bruce wrote:You get a huge variation in tandems, from clunkers to race machines, with most of them at the gaspipe end. This Gitane tandem appears to be a reasonable touring bike, a drag brake at the rear and cantis up front, brakes and an eccentric bottom bracket. 5 speed, so my guess is that it is 85-86 - a 1984 Rallye had the chainrings at the front & by 1986 had the chainrings at the stoker. By 87 they dropped the horizontal tube on the Rallye. Still likely to be hi-tensile tubing though.barefoot wrote:Hehe.
I used to have a Gitane tandem. Mixte-style rear. Random Mafac and Simplex bits. No reason to think it was anything other than gaspipe.
High-profile Mafac cantilevers at the rear (front was mismatched, as mentioned... had newer low-profile cantis), Atom drum brake hub, 3x5 drivetrain, eccentric BB at the front IIRC. I assumed it was '70s vintage, based on the rear brakes alone. The triple crank was at the front too, because the rear seatstay was curved around the wheel, so wouldn't have worked with a derailer. Also, such a short effective chainstay might have been a problem for the drivetrain (considering they were still using bushing chains back then, which really didn't like being cross-chained).
Offloaded that when a friend wanted rid of his '90s KHS tandem. Hardly ridden tandems since, due to the kids thing.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby ldrcycles » Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:12 pm
Fingers crossed, quad chainrings are cool .frailer5 wrote:Quad chainrings, 6-speed rear, perhaps?find_bruce wrote:Seller is not good at maths - 2 gears on front & 7 (maybe at rear = "24 speed"
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby frailer5 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:10 pm
Realistic start price, not stupid, like you see quite often lately.
And the term awesome has really lost all meaning, has it not?
And the less said about that Mercian, the better.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
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