New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby HappyHumber » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:15 pm
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby MattyK » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:54 pm
Yep, and they do.il padrone wrote:Quite surprising to see the approach that the Germans take towards bicycle lighting. According to the 2013 Busch & Muller catalogue:
German road traffi c regulations (StVZO) stipulate that if a bicycle is to participate in road traffic, it must among other things be equipped with a headlight offering a light output of at least 10 Lux, as well as a rear light, both of which have to be powered by a dynamo. Racing cycles that weigh no more than 11 kg are an exception: They may participate in traffic using specially approved, battery powered lights (current state of affairs).
So if you are riding any bike that weighs more than 11kg you must have a dynamo lightset fitted
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby just4tehhalibut » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:33 pm
Just spotted on Rose Versand the Eyc T but going for 54 Euros (VAT included, for European customers). Looks to be smaller than the Cyo T, trading down from the Cyo T's 60 Lux to 50 but with better side vision. Might work for Audaxing if you want a small but bright headlight with good roo detecting powers but don't also want the USB recharge facility and other functions of the Luxos U. As I said earlier on the Cyo is a bright light but I needed to spot roos on the verge as well as the road the Luxos U was brilliant for that, maybe this also?Aushiker wrote:... ' B&M will release a "Mini Me" version of the Luxos called "Lumotec IQ2 Eyc" '... The release slogan seems to be "50 euro for 50 Lux".
Not in stock for another 5 weeks but.
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby just4tehhalibut » Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:06 am
The Cyo R Premium T, a 60 Lux headlight with reflector. Seems to be only a few Euros more than the Cyo RT that I currently use, that's only 40 Lux.
Then there's the Cyo Premium T (yep, not the Cyo R Premium T. Those funny Germans.) which is basically the Cyo R Premium T but without the limiting factor of a built-in reflector so at 80 Lux. A bit like the 60 Lux Cyo T is the Cyo RT without the reflector.
The long-and-short is that there's a couple of new headlight models in that they've made the old models 'brighter'. But they still sell the old models even though these and the Luxos B seem to be obsolete now.
And for taillights they've updated the Secula model, you now have one for mudguard mount and interestly one for the seatstay. And another for racks, the Toplight View plus.
Since there's nothing much on the bumm.de website, at least in English, it isn't clear if any of these new products are fully compatible with existing lights, remember the issue that we had with the Luxos U head and the Brake Plus taillight.
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby Aushiker » Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:55 am
Thanks for the heads-up on these. That is a great move by Busch and Mueller in my view as not everyone wants to run a rack or a mudguard.
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby il padrone » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:10 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby just4tehhalibut » Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:39 am
I had been using a Cyo headlight on one of those nifty Supernova multimounts, the Eyc will use the same mount but has ridges that limit setup, you have to use the bracket sticking up nearly vertical as opposed to the horizontal that I needed for getting around my canti brake cables. And whatever bracket you use to mount it won't cover completely the opening at the base of the light, if you turn it upside down you can see inside to the guts. Maybe it won't be a problem if your bike has mudguards and you never turn your bike upside down when cleaning it. Otherwise look to plugging that gap up. I'll be machining up a better mounting bracket and playing with rubber strips to fix these two problems.
I'm using this light on my Trucker Deluxe as I want something small and lightweight but that packs a punch, it achieves this. If you are thinking of a dynamo light for your folder this one would be ideal.
PS I've just noticed that Rose Versand has put the Cyo and Luxos headlights on special since they started stocking the Eyc. Price would be with VAT included, we don't get VAT'd.
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby wqlava1 » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:58 pm
I just put good quality white 3M reflector on the front of the fork blades of most of my bikes. it's a shame that the diamond reflector sticky sheet (as used on witches hats etc) doesn't bend sharply enough and I need to use what is effectively the next grade down.
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby Aushiker » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:41 am
A review from the perspective of the dark side has popped up ... a Metabikes rider has shared his thoughts. If you are interested you will find the review at the DarkerSide.
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby warthog1 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:37 pm
Thanks, that photo had me very confused until I read the articleAushiker wrote:
A review from the perspective of the dark side has popped up ... a Metabikes rider has shared his thoughts. If you are interested you will find the review at the DarkerSide.
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby HappyHumber » Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:57 pm
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby Aushiker » Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:19 pm
I know that Dave has one coming but does anyone else have any experience with these? I am particularly interested in how they compare with the Philips Saferide SRRDLGBLX1 and if I could get away with running two of either rear light in-combination with a Busch & Muller Lumotec IQ2 Luxos U front light. All of which will be powered by, a SP PD-8 dynamo.
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby Crawf » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:57 pm
Would be interested to hear any feed back too.
Currently running a PD8, U & TOPLIGHT Line brake plus (This is quite big and would prefer something smaller for a roadie)
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby rifraf » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:59 am
Just thought I'd bring to yours and anyone whose interesteds attention that Philips has a seatpost adapter that fits the Philips Lumiring and I strongly suspect the B&M Topline offerings that would normally attach to a Tubus rack.Aushiker wrote:Revisiting the Busch & Muller Secula Plus for Seat Post or Stay (331/2ASK) that just4tehhalibut referred to a couple of posts back.
I know that Dave has one coming but does anyone else have any experience with these? I am particularly interested in how they compare with the Philips Saferide SRRDLGBLX1 and if I could get away with running two of either rear light in-combination with a Busch & Muller Lumotec IQ2 Luxos U front light. All of which will be powered by, a SP PD-8 dynamo.
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby Aushiker » Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:48 am
That is an option except I don't have seat postsrifraf wrote:Just thought I'd bring to yours and anyone whose interesteds attention that Philips has a seatpost adapter that fits the Philips Lumiring and I strongly suspect the B&M Topline offerings that would normally attach to a Tubus rack.
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby just4tehhalibut » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:29 pm
The Phillips bracket would do the same job as the Secula, fitting on a seatstay or some other tube, however it is plastic and a bit flimsy so I wouldn't trust it with the larger taillights like your B&M Toplight BrakePlus model. Hence I gave mine away. Maybe it would work with a Toplight Mini?
I've ordered two of the Seculas, one will replace a Mini that I had mounted via a homemade bracket on the seatstay. I'll let you know how secure it mounts, how adaptable and how bright it is.
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby warthog1 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:42 pm
I have a Philips saferide 80 and whilst a good light. the mounting bracket on it is p'weak also. It appears Philips have continued their form for cost cutting on mounting brackets.just4tehhalibut wrote:Or saddle rails.
The Phillips bracket would do the same job as the Secula, fitting on a seatstay or some other tube, however it is plastic and a bit flimsy so I wouldn't trust it with the larger taillights like your B&M Toplight BrakePlus model. Hence I gave mine away. Maybe it would work with a Toplight Mini?
I've ordered two of the Seculas, one will replace a Mini that I had mounted via a homemade bracket on the seatstay. I'll let you know how secure it mounts, how adaptable and how bright it is.
This thread is becoming more pertinent as I have noticed the days are getting shorter again already
The Summer solstice was on Dec 22.
Back to school bills wont allow me to buy a luxos u yet. Need to hurry up though. I've had enough of batteries.
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby Aushiker » Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:04 pm
Thanks. There is a bit of review at http://swhs.home.xs4all.nl/fiets/tests/ ... ex_en.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Conclusion is:just4tehhalibut wrote:I've ordered two of the Seculas, one will replace a Mini that I had mounted via a homemade bracket on the seatstay. I'll let you know how secure it mounts, how adaptable and how bright it is.
The power usage is a little niggle but. The light he sings praises about, the Philips Saferide lumiring is of course a rack mounted light.The first good fender mounted LED based taillamp.
Very good visibility, optics are good (though to the rear not as good as the optics of the Lumiring). Power use is high.
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby Crawf » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:51 pm
If anyone in Brisbane wants to go halves on shipping from the German sites PM me...
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby HappyHumber » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:13 pm
I was more interested in the mounting hardware and wire terminal connection. He didn't show any of the latter, but from what I could make out of his opening of the package - it looks like a cable/zip tie fastener with frame specific rubber bushings on the seat stay.
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby Blakeylonger » Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:13 pm
Gah, and I just ordered.Crawf wrote:A better look at the Secula Plus - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdH8T6HJRx0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If anyone in Brisbane wants to go halves on shipping from the German sites PM me...
Bike24 is out of the 1752QSNDi-04 cyo (80lux, no reflector or DRL) BTW. No restock in sight, I got the last one and had to grab a Eyc (50lux, tiny) in place of #2. Also grabbed a Secula plus (fender) and a lumiring (rack). I've been happy with the topline braketec plus, but having witnessed a lumiring I'm keen to use it.
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby rifraf » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:16 am
Only done half a dozen night runs of 20km or so, but it seems to be working well and the stand-light function appears to be great.
I cant compare its brightness with any of the B&M products for anyone as I've used a Serfas blinky up to this point.
Its my first dynamo led tail-light.
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Re: New B&M IQ headlight in the pipeline
Postby simonn » Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:49 am
What difference would the power usage make in practice?Aushiker wrote:The power usage is a little niggle but.The first good fender mounted LED based taillamp.
Very good visibility, optics are good (though to the rear not as good as the optics of the Lumiring). Power use is high.
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