Crit season! 11t or 12t?
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Re: Crit season! 11t or 12t?
Postby Pravda » Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:00 pm
Boxing day Old Papa's World Cup. I ended up with 112km at 38kph including my ride to and from Freo and I got dropped in kings park. Apparently the pace for the actual ride was 46kph.
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Re: Crit season! 11t or 12t?
Postby singlespeedscott » Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:30 pm
Averaging 46kph only requires a 53 x 13 spinning at 90 rpm to keep pacePravda wrote:Though I found a ride you need an 11t for.
Boxing day Old Papa's World Cup. I ended up with 112km at 38kph including my ride to and from Freo and I got dropped in kings park. Apparently the pace for the actual ride was 46kph.
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Re: Crit season! 11t or 12t?
Postby nickobec » Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:03 pm
That is the average for the 1 hour 40 minute "training" ride, most of the time the speed is a little faster, around 50kph, with top speeds in the high 6Ts.singlespeedscott wrote:Averaging 46kph only requires a 53 x 13 spinning at 90 rpm to keep pace
A couple years back it was 60kph+ for 5km with a tailwind, so 110rpm on 53/12.
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Re: Crit season! 11t or 12t?
Postby Derny Driver » Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:44 pm
46 kph training ride ? Crikey.nickobec wrote:That is the average for the 1 hour 40 minute "training" ride, most of the time the speed is a little faster, around 50kph, with top speeds in the high 6Ts.singlespeedscott wrote:Averaging 46kph only requires a 53 x 13 spinning at 90 rpm to keep pace
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Last week at Sutherland Sydney crit, A grade did a 43kph average according to young DD's Garmin, the heat was on all race with with Chris Sutton from Sky, Donnelly and Beckinsale from Genesys, 5 Skoda riders, 4 Yamaha riders and all the usual freaks. Wiggle Honda's world champion Bronzini who just won the Michelton Bay crit could only manage a 2nd place in B grade.
So 46kph is one hell of a training ride!
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Re: Crit season! 11t or 12t?
Postby Pravda » Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:11 pm
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Re: Crit season! 11t or 12t?
Postby Xplora » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:25 am
Isn't this every bunch ride that isn't waiting for flats?Pravda wrote:It's not really a training ride, more an unsanctioned race posing as a training ride.
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Re: Crit season! 11t or 12t?
Postby Pravda » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:37 am
True, but this one is a touch quicker than most.Xplora wrote:Isn't this every bunch ride that isn't waiting for flats?Pravda wrote:It's not really a training ride, more an unsanctioned race posing as a training ride.
Checkout a video of the last couple of kays here.
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Re: Crit season! 11t or 12t?
Postby nickobec » Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:27 pm
A little bit of an understatement, the riders on the front are trying to rip the legs off the 200 odd participants. Which the effectively do, the video Pravada linked to, shows the remains of the bunch hammering the last couple of ks and a not a small group of spectators at the finish. The jerseys worn are the real thing, national champion, world tour, NRS teams etc. Which is why it is such a big event, anybody can just rock up and ride/race against some of the best in the world.Pravda wrote:True, but this one is a touch quicker than most.here.
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Re: Crit season! 11t or 12t?
Postby scotto » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:35 am
i think i did that on my last race there. spent the whole race cursing that i hadnt had time to change from my kiama gear (compact and 12-25) to the usual standard cranks. somehow i won the bunch sprint, and i think i hit 135rpm and 72km/h (thank you tailwind gods). (and thank you to the 'not throwing up after the race gods too, who kindly intervened at the right time)toolonglegs wrote:Eastern Creek is a crit track when they do the short circuit... 70kmph sprint on the right day... try doing that in a 50/12
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Re: Crit season! 11t or 12t?
Postby vander » Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:33 pm
72km/h nice mate!! Congrats on the win also. Track legs must be treating you well.scotto wrote:i think i did that on my last race there. spent the whole race cursing that i hadnt had time to change from my kiama gear (compact and 12-25) to the usual standard cranks. somehow i won the bunch sprint, and i think i hit 135rpm and 72km/h (thank you tailwind gods). (and thank you to the 'not throwing up after the race gods too, who kindly intervened at the right time)toolonglegs wrote:Eastern Creek is a crit track when they do the short circuit... 70kmph sprint on the right day... try doing that in a 50/12
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Re: Crit season! 11t or 12t?
Postby trek52 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:51 am
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Re: Crit season! 11t or 12t?
Postby Derny Driver » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:58 am
Welcome to the discussion Trektrek52 wrote:Can you buy cassettes without an 11 cog ???
Now you are arguably THE best masters A grade crit rider in Sydney, so how many 11 tooth cogs have you worn out in crit racing?
How often do you need that last cog?
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Re: Crit season! 11t or 12t?
Postby trek52 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:26 pm
In saying this it does not suit kids like your young bloke who doesn't need to use this approach, the other downfall for
Me is trying to sprint like this after 140km is not always successful and guys that can't hold
My wheel in a crit sprint have beaten me in the past.
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