Australian 50's headsets
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Australian 50's headsets
Postby Retro man » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:30 am
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Re: Australian 50's headsets
Postby WyvernRH » Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:42 pm
I think you mean something like this?Retro man wrote:What are the headsets called on the Healing, the ones where the races are a part of the frame, Continental? the races on mine look fair no detentes or dimpling but they are definitely not like they have been precision machined or anything, and it looks like there is a hairline crack on the top race cup. (dob of braze under it?) should I not worry about it, or is there a way of restoring the surface. Just want to know before I get the frame refinished.
The bulges in the top and bottom headlugs hold separate machined races for the ball bearings which fit loosely in the lugs, ball bearings should NOT run against the frame metal! This type of headset is commonly known as the 'British' pattern as opposed the the later and more common these days 'Continental' pattern as shown below which hane the races pressed into squared off head lugs.
There was a thread some time ago discussing the timeline of the various headset types.
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Re: Australian 50's headsets
Postby Retro man » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:38 pm
Yes you are right! I went and had a look at my containers that I have stored the parts in and the races just sit in the frame cups. I would say the crack is from over tightening the lock ring.
I have scoured Ebay but have never come across any of these, even second hand! Can you buy them new or are they just a NOS thing if you are lucky enough to find one.
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Re: Australian 50's headsets
Postby WyvernRH » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:17 pm
Richard
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Re: Australian 50's headsets
Postby Retro man » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:55 pm
Like I said I have not seen any on the web for sale, are they that uncommon?
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Re: Australian 50's headsets
Postby ldrcycles » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:21 pm
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Re: Australian 50's headsets
Postby WyvernRH » Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:41 am
Cheers
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Re: Australian 50's headsets
Postby Retro man » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:21 am
I feel a lot better about it now. I will just just give it a dob of braze and file it.
I still have to get the drop outs on the front forks replaced I am in a bit of a quandary about it all, first I have to find someone with the skill to do it that's not going to cost what the bike is worth. and the second thing is what size drop outs will I use? I have some Huret wing nuts and these use the old 8mm sizing, the high flange Normandy hub in my wheel has a more larger quick release axle. most of the dropouts you find on ebay are for these. can you use the bigger dropouts with the smaller axle safely? or can I just swap out the modern axle and use a vintage axle? I dont want to junk the forks for another set because the top crown has lug work that matches the frame, I want to try and save them. My Healing is the same as the 52 on this post. It was painted the same colour pity it was painted over and the Reynolds decal was destroyed.
http://bicycles.net.au/forums/viewtopic ... 52+Healing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Australian 50's headsets
Postby Retro man » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:37 am
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Re: Australian 50's headsets
Postby ldrcycles » Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:41 pm
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Re: Australian 50's headsets
Postby Retro man » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:17 am
Looks like Emails are not his preferred line of communication then.
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Re: Australian 50's headsets
Postby spirito » Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:46 pm
Maybe he's just bored answering questions that are nothing but a waste of time for him and he has nothing to profit from? Just sayin' ..Retro man wrote:Thanks
Looks like Emails are not his preferred line of communication then.
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Re: Australian 50's headsets
Postby Retro man » Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:17 pm
I just want to clarify that I am not someone who wastes peoples time wanting things for nothing or squabbling over price, if its repairable good if its not bin it. He is in the business of frame repair that's why I asked.
I do not know Joe and have not spoken to him, this is not a criticism of him or you, it is a response to your post so you can understand my position.
I just want the forks fixed.
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