Trainer Use
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Trainer Use
Postby Dave_C » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:23 pm
I ride about 50-100km week (or try)
I decide to jump in and buy a trainer (Elite powerfluid) as i can't always get out due to family commitments.
Anyway ride 1 I lasted 10 minute but only doing 24/25km/h at a cadence of 80ish. Resistance is set by whta gear you are in so i went for my typical road gear 53 / 17 or 15
What should i aim for in speed / time etc. I assume to keep cadence up at 90ish
Any guidance gratefully accepted
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Re: Trainer Use
Postby Xplora » Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:55 pm
Your speedo is USELESS here. Your cadence is a much more useful tool. Pick the cadence, then get a gear that will let you last until the interval is over. Allow yourself 5 rides over the next month to get better at figuring it out. I've got a power meter, all the sensors, and I still have trouble maintaining a nice smooth target cadence for my 2x20s, which I know produce the right power output.
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Re: Trainer Use
Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:48 pm
Focus on time and effort level, as that's what matters most for gaining fitness. There are zillions of indoor workouts you can do.Dave_C wrote:Ok
I ride about 50-100km week (or try)
I decide to jump in and buy a trainer (Elite powerfluid) as i can't always get out due to family commitments.
Anyway ride 1 I lasted 10 minute but only doing 24/25km/h at a cadence of 80ish. Resistance is set by whta gear you are in so i went for my typical road gear 53 / 17 or 15
What should i aim for in speed / time etc. I assume to keep cadence up at 90ish
Any guidance gratefully accepted
Your wheel's speed on a trainer will not always be a good guide to intensity, as there are many variables that can affect the effort required to maintain the same speed, both during a session (e.g. resistance unit and tyre warming up) and from session to session (e.g. tyre pressure, press on force of the roller on tyre etc). It certainly will bear little resemblance to outdoor speeds, if it does, it's just coincidence.
You can use trainer speed as a rough guide to intensity if you try to minimise the variables as much as possible, as realise it might take some time for the trainer to warm up and settle into a consistent resistance for your effort. It might need 10 to 20 minutes continuous effort for that to happen, depends on the trainer.
Else, ride with frequency, and have fun, keep it interesting. Find little motivational aids, such as having a plan for each session rather than be aimless, or using video or music to help pass the time.
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Re: Trainer Use
Postby Dave_C » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:24 pm
Sorry for the slow responce i was off for three days.
That gives me a starter to work on. I had my cadence up near where i wanted it but barely lasted 10 minutes in such a high gear.
I will knock it down and work at lasting for a greater time (and not worry about speed)
Dave
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Re: Trainer Use
Postby trailgumby » Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:59 pm
Managed to get through 1hr 40 worth of intervals. Felt it more in the legs than rhe cardio but there's no way I'd have completed a workout that long without having other riders to chase on a video
Now I just need a real big-ass fan!
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Re: Trainer Use
Postby Xplora » Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:09 pm
If you need to ride regardless of weather or season, you don't need an answer. You just answered it. If you don't need to ride, then you shouldn't get one. Trainer SUCKS unless you have little kids and need to be home, and you have a training schedule to adhere to. I keep my sessions to one hour max, have been doing 2-3 a fortnight over the past couple months. Works well for me.
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Re: Trainer Use
Postby iaintas » Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:59 pm
However as i just found out now, DO NOT have a big meal a few hours before jumping on the trainer and doing "revolver", dinner just about re-appeared on the floor after 30minutes!!!!!!
If your worried about price, just keep an eye out on gumtree, I just upgraded to a Cascade Fluid Pro that was on special for $189, and sooooooo much better than a mag trainer.
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Re: Trainer Use
Postby Xplora » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:47 am
Yeah that's not going to work. It really comes down to whether or not you need to use your bike. If you can't be bothered riding, then a trainer won't help that. As long as you focus on the goal, rather than the means of achieving it, it makes a lot of these questions easier to answer. I think the same thing about power meters. Of course you need one. Is that the best investment of cash given your style of riding and training? Totally different.
I would say that it is very much worth considering getting a good one, because my Kurt Kinetic is the only trainer I have used, and it's supposed to be one of the best, but it's only "ok" in the grand scheme of things. I'd hate to think how bad a crappy one would be. It would be worth considering rollers instead of a trainer, but there is considerable more space and safety concerns around rollers.
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Re: Trainer Use
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Postby brawlo » Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:46 pm
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Re: Trainer Use
Postby Le Mong » Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:20 pm
Trainer SUCKS if you don't use it right. Used properly they can be quite enjoyable and useful.Xplora wrote:That's a hard core question chops. Are you racing? Or training for an event?
If you need to ride regardless of weather or season, you don't need an answer. You just answered it. If you don't need to ride, then you shouldn't get one. Trainer SUCKS unless you have little kids and need to be home, and you have a training schedule to adhere to. I keep my sessions to one hour max, have been doing 2-3 a fortnight over the past couple months. Works well for me.
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Re: Trainer Use
Postby toolonglegs » Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:44 pm
But after a good session I certainly feel good about the results.
Power meter makes the the time pass faster... I just stare at the numbers and time seems to pass quicker... Also I am on rollers, not a home trainer.
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Re: Trainer Use
Postby Le Mong » Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:52 pm
Power/trainer rd/custom plans/stereo on 11 and a BMF fan lol
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Re: Trainer Use
Postby Xplora » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:33 pm
I don't know if obsessively holding a cadence is necessarily enjoyable, but it's certainly useful, very true.Le Mong wrote:Trainer SUCKS if you don't use it right. Used properly they can be quite enjoyable and useful.
I don't mind the trainer, personally, but I want to let people's expectations be very very very low. They won't be surprised if they don't enjoy it then
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Re: Trainer Use
Postby g-boaf » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:29 pm
I haven't yet got rollers - I'll probably have to in a while.toolonglegs wrote:I have never had an enjoyable trainer ride. EVER .
But after a good session I certainly feel good about the results.
Power meter makes the the time pass faster... I just stare at the numbers and time seems to pass quicker... Also I am on rollers, not a home trainer.
For now, making use of the trainers in a place down the road from where I work. Enjoying the efforts - and even more enjoying it when I'm noticing the results.
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Re: Trainer Use
Postby filip » Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:18 pm
Recently i signed up for trainer road, which i think will give me the next level. With trainer road a 1 ½ hour workout flies past. Did a sufferfest video with them as well (without the video) and again very good. Chops, you should give it a try.
I do at least 1-2 workouts (intervals) on the trainer a week, and heaps more when daylight savings finishes. Good when you're into racing and you need dedicated and focussed work on weaknesses.
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Re: Trainer Use
Postby you cannot be sirrus » Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:50 pm
Hopefully I'll get over it.
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Re: Trainer Use
Postby clint66 » Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:09 am
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Re: Trainer Use
Postby AUbicycles » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:22 am
Currently setting up an iphone on the handlebars in a mount and going through long cycling videos on youtube. You get really step it up a notch when Cappuccio and Indurain are competing for the mountain stage victories.
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Re: Trainer Use
Postby trailgumby » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:07 am
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Re: Trainer Use
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