TRP CX9 Brakes
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TRP CX9 Brakes
Postby omo » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:35 am
Has anyone tried the TRP CX9 Linear pull brakes? I find the standard canti's don't quite pull me up as well as I would like on the steep descents
I am thinking of going with the CX9 brakes and fit some swiss stop pads.
http://www.trpbrakes.com/category.php?p ... &catid=185
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Re: TRP CX9 Brakes
Postby MilkRacer » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:49 pm
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Re: TRP CX9 Brakes
Postby evanrude71 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:36 am
The 8.5s came with inline adjusters as well.
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Re: TRP CX9 Brakes
Postby toolonglegs » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:44 am
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Re: TRP CX9 Brakes
Postby omo » Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:06 pm
Thanks for you replies!
My standard canti's are Shimano's with S70C pads. In muddy conditions or CX conditions they are ok. Lately I have been using the bike for some fire road touring in the hills and the brakes don't really cut it. I was originally thinking of changing bikes and going for a bike with disc brakes, but aside from the brakes I really like the Colnago as a CX bike/tourer. So I think I might order some V brakes and see how they go...
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Re: TRP CX9 Brakes
Postby Nobody » Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:40 pm
S70C pads are low noise, dry conditions pads. In other words hard and less effective in certain situations.omo wrote:My standard canti's are Shimano's with S70C pads.
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/mtb-bm ... himbrbl260" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That is fine if you are going to get long pull levers or travel agents. Levers that work for cantis (short pull, road levers) aren't going to work with V brakes.omo wrote:So I think I might order some V brakes and see how they go...
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Re: TRP CX9 Brakes
Postby Nobody » Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:00 pm
You are probably right for extreme muddy conditions due to canti's thicker pads. But I would argue in normal dry conditions or just wet roads that V brakes are excellent with the right setup. I've got an Avid Ultimate on the front with Lifeline coaxial brake cable and Lifeline Professional pads and it is one finger braking with the Avid Speed Dial 7 lever wound out all the way. Best brake I've ever owned for power and modulation in dry conditions. And that's including the BB7s.toolonglegs wrote:Properly set up canti's will pull you up better than any V brakes ever will.
http://www.sram.com/avid/products/singl ... -rim-brake" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
One of the main advantages of the Ultimates is they can be cabled either way so you don't have the big S bend in the cable for the front brake.
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Re: TRP CX9 Brakes
Postby omo » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:05 pm
The reason I am looking at the TRP CX9 brakes is that (according to their and other websites) they will work with normal (road) brifters. So my take is that no travel agents or long pull levers are needed.Nobody wrote:That is fine if you are going to get long pull levers or travel agents. Levers that work for cantis (short pull, road levers) aren't going to work with V brakes.
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Re: TRP CX9 Brakes
Postby toolonglegs » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:38 pm
Canti's run the same pads as roadies... all TRP brakes take Shimano shaped pads.Nobody wrote:You are probably right for extreme muddy conditions due to canti's thicker pads. But I would argue in normal dry conditions or just wet roads that V brakes are excellent with the right setup. I've got an Avid Ultimate on the front with Lifeline coaxial brake cable and Lifeline Professional pads and it is one finger braking with the Avid Speed Dial 7 lever wound out all the way. Best brake I've ever owned for power and modulation in dry conditions. And that's including the BB7s.toolonglegs wrote:Properly set up canti's will pull you up better than any V brakes ever will.
http://www.sram.com/avid/products/singl ... -rim-brake" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
One of the main advantages of the Ultimates is they can be cabled either way so you don't have the big S bend in the cable for the front brake.
I thought the OP was talking CX bike... so why would he be running mtb levers?... if we are talking flat bar different story.
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Re: TRP CX9 Brakes
Postby omo » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:02 pm
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Re: TRP CX9 Brakes
Postby Nobody » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:10 pm
So they are mini Vs.omo wrote:The reason I am looking at the TRP CX9 brakes is that (according to their and other websites) they will work with normal (road) brifters. So my take is that no travel agents or long pull levers are needed.
http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... p=15986715" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: TRP CX9 Brakes
Postby Nobody » Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:23 pm
Sorry. So what you meant was canti's are better than any mini Vs. I got it now...toolonglegs wrote:Canti's run the same pads as roadies... all TRP brakes take Shimano shaped pads.Nobody wrote:You are probably right for extreme muddy conditions due to canti's thicker pads. But blah blah...toolonglegs wrote:Properly set up canti's will pull you up better than any V brakes ever will.
I thought the OP was talking CX bike... so why would he be running mtb levers?... if we are talking flat bar different story.
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Re: TRP CX9 Brakes
Postby MilkRacer » Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:45 pm
I recon' tyres and the pressures you run make a bigger difference on braking performance than the brakes themself though. Food for thought.
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Re: TRP CX9 Brakes
Postby JonoMarshall » Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:27 pm
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Re: TRP CX9 Brakes
Postby rheicel » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:52 am
Do you guys see any issue with this set-up? Front will have a normal Shimano Caliper. I want to hide the rear brake under the chainstay to have a clean look as possible. I have ruled out the Shimano Direct mount as the frame builder can possibly screw up the holes, and besides, V-Brakes are cheaper too. Thanks
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Re: TRP CX9 Brakes
Postby Blakeylonger » Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:29 pm
Get CX8.4. (Or Paul mini moto if you ball hard, or RX5 if you are budget constrained)
If you get non TRP, get adjustable noodles, these are essential.
If you are getting a custom frame, get the posts set as high as possible (give the builder the brake), so you can run the pad at the very bottom, which will maximise your rim clearance / modulation.
Use compressionless housing for the best performance.
And if you're using flat bars, just go straight to MTB V brakes and levers, Shimano XT for example. All the rim clearance and vertical room you could want.
I've used Tektro Oryx (narrow), Shimano R550 (narrow), Avid Shortly Ultimate in wide & narrow, FSA SL-K (wide), Paul Touring & Neoretro (narrow & wide), MAFAC tandem (wide), Froglegg style (wide), and who knows how many others I've forgotten. plus Tektro 926AL (80mm arms), RX5 (85mm arms) minis and have CX8.4 about to be fitted.
There are certain truths:
- Mini vees have more outright braking power, full stop. Even minis with 80mm arms with pads mid slot have enough power to pull endos and rip skids with one finger on drop bar levers.
The shorter the arm, the less cable pull required --> greater rim clearance possible.
Cantis have more rim clearance, but this only really matters in grassy mud or if your rims are horribly out of true.
Cantis with low profile arms and a low straddle and good pads can provide great braking, but the lever used is a factor too, eg Oryx (generally a terrible brake) works very well with a shimano BL-R400 style lever. Some of the old Deore XT medium profile cantis are the best I've ever used.
Cantis are the solution if you want to run tyres over 28mm plus fenders, or monstercross sized tyres.
Mini vees with arms 85mm or less are best.
Mini vees work better with SRAM or hidden gear cable shimano as these pull a little more cable, but they still work well with campy/ext gear cable shimano.
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