Sleeping mats
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby il padrone » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:13 pm
BTW don't ever inflate it like they show in that photo - it will be hard as rock.
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby rifraf » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:24 pm
thanks for the heads up.
The Pump Pillow was recommended for inflation of the Synmat 7 which is one of the Exped mats without an internal pump.
No doubt others following this thread will be placed better to take advantage of your tip
The mats progress is speedy.
Already reached MASCOT AU
according to the tracking on the Fedex site.
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby petie » Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:34 am
Good tip, I too have this pillow and it's surprisingly good. Definitely need to "tune" your inflation level.il padrone wrote:Anaconda sells the Black Wolf pillow - perfectly good item and better than those prices. No shipping if you have an Anaconda store near you.
BTW don't ever inflate it like they show in that photo - it will be hard as rock.
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby Wingnut » Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:54 am
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby rifraf » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:08 am
Lets see the pics of your new "tattoo"Wingnut wrote:The only problem I found with the Black Wolf pillow was the decal on it eventually goes soft, peels off and sticks to your head...
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby il padrone » Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:19 am
Pillow-slipWingnut wrote:The only problem I found with the Black Wolf pillow was the decal on it eventually goes soft, peels off and sticks to your head...
I find it prevents oil/sweat from my scalp staining the pillow, and feels so much better.
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby Wingnut » Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:18 pm
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby rifraf » Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:23 pm
I've made do with that method for years.Wingnut wrote:Or you can go the other way and just use a jacket or clothing inside a pillow slip as some hikers do...
Time to see how the other half lives
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby just4tehhalibut » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:34 pm
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby rifraf » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:56 pm
Hi Just4tehhalibut,just4tehhalibut wrote:The other path is just the Exped pillow and Exped's Schnozzel Pumpbag to inflate that and the mat?
no the other side is an Exped pump pillow which has an internal pump for pumping up Exped mattresses without the integral pump.
http://www.summitgear.com.au/exped-pillow-pump/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby il padrone » Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:49 pm
Believe me, once you have used a self-inflating pillow, inside a slip, you will not go back to that old methodWingnut wrote:Or you can go the other way and just use a jacket or clothing inside a pillow slip as some hikers do...
I did it for many, many years. Never again, unless my pillow fails.
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby Wingnut » Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:53 pm
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby rifraf » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:54 pm
I just sent them a thank you email for their prompt dispatch and communication.
Its a much smaller and tidier package than the last one I had which I think was a Kathmando job I hastily grabbed days before my Mudgee NSW to Perth tour.
I'm impressed with its lack of bulk.
I think that was 6 days from NZ to my doorstep.
I'm happy with that, as its quicker than many of my packages take from the Sydney mail sorting center.
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby rifraf » Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:45 pm
Hi IP,il padrone wrote:Anaconda sells the Black Wolf pillow - perfectly good item and better than those prices. No shipping if you have an Anaconda store near you.
BTW don't ever inflate it like they show in that photo - it will be hard as rock.
hey I just followed that link again for another squiz.
Its actually dearer than those Exped pillows I linked to.
Granted it is slightly cheaper if someone doesnt need to utilise postage.
Currently $39.99 (may have been less when you posted it or perhaps cheaper in Victoria)
I'd tried to order from one of my above links but couldnt get my order to include shipping due, I think to a glitch on their website.
Because of the time zone difference, I stuffed up ringing them on Saturday and they were closed on Sunday.
When I got hold of them today they were out of stock.
I quickly went to hiking.com.au and ordered and payed for express postage.
I quickly got sent order confirmation and an email stating shipped with a tracking number.
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby il padrone » Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:51 pm
Umm..... that all shows, you gotta act quick on those links. When I posted that one it was on sale for $29.99 I seem to recall.rifraf wrote:Hi IP,il padrone wrote:Anaconda sells the Black Wolf pillow - perfectly good item and better than those prices. No shipping if you have an Anaconda store near you.
BTW don't ever inflate it like they show in that photo - it will be hard as rock.
hey I just followed that link again for another squiz.
Its actually dearer than those Exped pillows I linked to.
Granted it is slightly cheaper if someone doesnt need to utilise postage.
Currently $39.99 (may have been less when you posted it or perhaps cheaper in Victoria)
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby rifraf » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:06 pm
No worries, I wanted the one with the internal pump anyway.il padrone wrote: Umm..... that all shows, you gotta act quick on those links. When I posted that one it was on sale for $29.99 I seem to recall.
I occasionally get a bit of asthma so trying to manually blow up a mattress isnt my cup of tea when its cold and I'm a bit wheezy.
The Exped pump pillow is now on its way.
I will remember for future links to speedily pull finger for a squiz
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby Leiothrix » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:08 pm
It's not particularly good for the mattress either, because you fill it up with moisture and bugs.rifraf wrote:I occasionally get a bit of asthma so trying to manually blow up a mattress isnt my cup of tea when its cold and I'm a bit wheezy.
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby rifraf » Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:36 pm
That was another consideration.Leiothrix wrote:It's not particularly good for the mattress either, because you fill it up with moisture and bugs.rifraf wrote:I occasionally get a bit of asthma so trying to manually blow up a mattress isnt my cup of tea when its cold and I'm a bit wheezy.
Pillow arrived safely today.
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby RonK » Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:59 pm
So you ordered on Tuesday - from that shop in Maryborough, Queensland? And received it in a week - not bad...rifraf wrote:Pillow arrived safely today.
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby rifraf » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:24 pm
RonK wrote:So you ordered on Tuesday - from that shop in Maryborough, Queensland? And received it in a week - not bad...rifraf wrote:Pillow arrived safely today.
Hi Ron,rifraf wrote: I'd tried to order from one of my above links but couldnt get my order to include shipping due, I think to a glitch on their website.
Because of the time zone difference, I stuffed up ringing them on Saturday and they were closed on Sunday.
When I got hold of them today they were out of stock.
I quickly went to hiking.com.au and ordered and payed for express postage.
I quickly got sent order confirmation and an email stating shipped with a tracking number.
No I ended up going with Hiker.com.au .
Exasperated by hold ups in general, I bit the bullet in Monday, ordered in the morning, paid for express shipping, and it arrived this morning from NSW.
This after getting hold of them by phone first to confirm stock levels.
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby rifraf » Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:29 pm
This was the name my payment was made to and receipt from according to paypal.
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby RonK » Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:33 pm
Ah - I got mine from Kellys.rifraf wrote:Hiker.com.au may be the same as Kellys Camping and Outdoors.
This was the name my payment was made to and receipt from according to paypal.
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby polishbiker » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:02 pm
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby il padrone » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:19 pm
1. Not to over-inflate the mat. Personally I find that when pumped tight it is too hard anyway; I leave it quite soft for a more comfortable bed;
2. Not to leave it in a tent left erected on any warm days - the temperatures in a closed tent can rise a lot (especially if in direct sun), causing the mat to pressurise even more and inviting failure.
Maybe you were aware of these matters and treating the mat correctly, but some advice for other users anyway.
I believe that Exped have a 5 year warranty on their products (2 years on the UL products), so if it has failed and not been abused, talk to them about it.
http://www.exped.com/australia/en/repairs-distributors" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Sleeping mats
Postby Aushiker » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:13 pm
You are comparing apples to oranges here and as been pointed out before, they are not the same mats. How a Synmat 7 performs has zero relevance to a Synmat UL 7 because of the design and materials used. They are different mats.il padrone wrote:I have been using the Synmat 7 for the past 2-3 years now; good friends of mine have been using them for over 4 years. No such seam-popping. Can I suggest that there just might be lessons to learn from this failure. The Exped instructions recommend:
There are well established known problems with the Synamt UL as being reported by users here in Australia including myself, the UK and elsewhere [just do a search of numerous forums particularly in the UK for the reports]. I have experienced exactly the same issue that polishbiker has had.
As to the warranty, that is only good if you can easily swap the mat out ... if you are on tour that is not necessarily so easy; don't I know.
As to the "advice" that has nothing to do with the issue that is occurring here which is a design fault and/or a fault in the manufacturer of the mats so please lets stop trying to spin that rubbish. Heck trying to suggest that they are over inflated is on its own pretty laughable in itself.
I thought that Exped had made changes as my replacement mat was different to my first one; if they haven't then that is really disappointing and brings into doubt their product once again and their focus on customer service.
Thankfully my Exped Synmat UL 7 is going okay other than a major hassle finding really tiny leaks, but I will not buy another.
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