BNA Losers Club 2014
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby Mugglechops » Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:12 am
15/02/14 122.3kgs
22/02/14 120.2kgs
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby spacehopper » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:09 am
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby dynamictiger » Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:10 am
Last time I was weighed it was by Medicare Local about November I think. I weighed 134 kg then.
Since January I have been commuting to work more days than not. Stuck to the strict diet. Lost a whole notch off my belt. And now I weigh in at a dainty 133.6 kgs on our scales. However I probably have a few coins etc on me I am not that pedantic.
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby Toolish » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:42 am
24/02/2014 - 90.2Toolish wrote:In that case
17/02/2014 - 91.2kg.
Started the Maffetone 2 week test today. Hoping this time next week to be sub 90kg.
Was a bit lower through the week, but the weekend binge hurt me a bit!
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby dynamictiger » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:52 am
When I was 10 I was taller than my parents and my teachers in school.
When I walk through a door I turn to the side to ensure I do not clip the door frame with my shoulders.
So using my measurements and assuming I am a cylinder I shrunk my body down to a more average height of 1.727 and a more average chest of 100 cm. Using this and cubing etc I calculated if I was a smaller person with a smaller frame I would be about 80 kgs. Still overweight accoridng to BMI. Interesting though as a curiosity.
This is probably why most people on meeting me dont think I am overweight or not as overweight as I really am... Still kind of off topic, as I said just a curiosity nothing more
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby casual_cyclist » Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:54 pm
A notch off your belt is great progress! Since starting out, I have lost 3. I prefer notches to kilos.dynamictiger wrote:Lost a whole notch off my belt.
I'm the same. I can be borderline obese and not look that fat. The bad news is that is the worst kind of fat... internal. I have heard the term TOFI (thin outside, fat inside). This is why we can't rely on BMI.dynamictiger wrote:This is probably why most people on meeting me dont think I am overweight or not as overweight as I really am... Still kind of off topic, as I said just a curiosity nothing more
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2006 ... lth.health" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;'Our work so far has shown that you can take two men of the same age, with the same BMI [body mass index], and find one with five litres of fat within him and another with two litres,' said Bell, who works at Hammersmith Hospital, west London. 'We've even scanned people who are underweight and found up to seven litres of fat inside them.
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby dynamictiger » Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:42 pm
I was really trying to say, given my build I am not very likely to get to the underside of 100 kgs and if I did I would probably be considered ill. Last time I weighed correct to the BMI was about 9.
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby moosterbounce » Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:20 pm
Having some weightlifters in the family, I know how unreasonable bmi is. When my BIL was 16 he went to a gym with a mate for the first time and lifted 20kg above the state record at the time. He was not built like the others!! Myself? I'm a full shoulder width broader than my sisters and will never weigh what they do despite being similar height. I have more weight in lean muscle than the total weight of one of my sisters when she was 9 months pregnant!!
Body fat measurements with calipers may hurt but are pretty good to see changes, or as CC said, the belt notches are a good indicator and cheaper
I see bmi like the food pyramid. Sold to the world by an "expert" and the world didn't question it. Now you can see why I think there is value in questioning these so called experts.
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby dynamictiger » Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:54 pm
The last doctor to suggest the BMI to me was about 15-18 years ago and he told me for my height my BMI weight was about 86 kgs...After I finished laughing I did manage to ask "yeah okay and what happens when I turn 9?"
I do have a perspective on the BMI. Again I dont want to take this thread off course to a discussion not really related however it is a different perspective.
New Zealand is often winning Rugby on the world stage...New Zealanders tend to be heavy set, thickly built people
Western Australians are often tall and thin - they make good AFL players
Samoans are generally very much the epitomy of round happy people
Tongans are the people you generally send to lift a bank safe out by hand (I have seen this I am not joking)
Looking at the BMI it originated in Belgium before my country of birth was discovered.
I think for various reasons environmental factors influence genetics more than we realise and this is why you end up with this small example of diversity I have outlined above. To then try and apply the BMI to an invidual from any of the above groups will result in huge errors. This is my take on it anyway.
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby moosterbounce » Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:13 pm
I'm not knocking your program or your efforts, but think you may benefit from being more open minded about some suggestions. I've lost 3 kilos since feb 1 by changing my breakfast to someing nutritionally dense that contains 3 serves of fruit and 4 of veges, and that doesn't have me getting hungry for 6 hours. It is 100 calories more than I used to have wyoghurt and muesli which had me gnawing at my desk by 10am. I'm open to suggestions for other breakfast options though - there are always other options.
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby casual_cyclist » Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:57 pm
Gluten-Free and Dairy-Free Zucchini Pie With Cilantro, Cumin and Limemoosterbounce wrote:I'm open to suggestions for other breakfast options though - there are always other options.
http://balancedplatter.com/zucchini-pie ... -and-lime/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Just remove the garlic.
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby DaveOZ » Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:05 pm
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby dynamictiger » Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:23 pm
When I was told 30 grams of cereal I almost fell over...see previous posts for why.
I tried it and was surprised. I actually find it fine now...surprisingly enough.
But hey that sure does look nice.
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby dynamictiger » Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:55 pm
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby dynamictiger » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:56 pm
I actually dont mind the cereal as it happens, so havent bothered with the egg option.
Again I feel like we are hijacking this thread and I really dont want to do this.
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby casual_cyclist » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:13 pm
I vote it is not a thread hijack. Finding what people are doing and how they are doing is all part of the purpose of the thread. I hope we all see some good progress this year.dynamictiger wrote:Again I feel like we are hijacking this thread and I really dont want to do this.
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby newie » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:32 pm
We will take today as 'Day 1".
26 Feb
Weight 62.5 kg
Body Fat 24.5% (I don't trust this number to be accurate in absolute terms, but hopefully it will follow any significant trends).
BMI 24
Waist measurement 75.5 cms. This is unlikely to change much as I carry the excess mostly around the bum and thighs.
I am currently at the upper end of the healthy ranges for all of the measures. I do think I am reasonably healthy (low cholestrol, low resting heart rate, good blood pressure, doctor has described me as "small" and wishes more patients were like me). The motivation for weight loss is mostly related to improving cycling performance and to a lesser extent, aesthetics.
Goal = 57 kg. Timeframe = however long is necessary to make this my new "set-point". By the end of the year perhaps, September if it goes well.
Now I just need to commit to making those few small changes that I know are necessary to reach and maintain this.
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby casual_cyclist » Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:57 pm
Welcome! You can do this. I have gone from one weight to a new weight. Set-point or leptin threshold theory is that you will be hungry at your new weight and eat yourself back to your old weight or more. IMO this is rubbish! I was hungry at my new set-point for a while but I kept eating well and the hunger went away. The only weird thing was getting used to eating smaller meals. Some of my meals looked like joke meals compared to before.newie wrote:Goal = 57 kg. Timeframe = however long is necessary to make this my new "set-point". By the end of the year perhaps, September if it goes well.
That's the hard part but the only way it will work in the long term.newie wrote:Now I just need to commit to making those few small changes that I know are necessary to reach and maintain this.
For me it is dropping what others call discretionary calories but I call gratuitous calories. These are nothing to do with nutrition or need. They are simply foods I eat for the sake of it and for no other reason. Now, if I could cut those down...
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Re: BNA Losers Club 2014
Postby toolonglegs » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:12 pm
Feb 26 ... BMI 26
Feb is always my hardest month, Jan follows closely behind... cold, wet and not racing. Season for me starts soon so motivation will start coming back I hope!.
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