eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
- frailer5
- Posts: 978
- Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:25 am
- Location: Sydney
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby frailer5 » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:39 pm
Ricardo Elite, '87 Keith Davis/Pegasus, '92 Team Miyata Ti.
- barefoot
- Posts: 1203
- Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:05 am
- Location: Ballarat
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby barefoot » Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:27 pm
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/pendle-h ... 1027391424" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- QuangVuong
- Posts: 1794
- Joined: Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:04 pm
- Location: Villawood, Sydney
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby QuangVuong » Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:52 pm
Blog: https://villaveloframes.wordpress.com/
FB & IG: @villaveloframes
- barefoot
- Posts: 1203
- Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:05 am
- Location: Ballarat
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby barefoot » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:41 am
Forged dropouts and downtube braze-ons, together with the fluted seatpost and aero levers, are all I can see to indicate that it's a better-than-gas-pipe frame. Photo isn't clear enough to make out much more than that.QuangVuong wrote:Seen that for a while now. I think it was Suntour GPX bits on it. Any thoughts to what the frame is?
The above-the-BB front gear cable routing is a bit unusual to my eye. Everything else says "generic Japanese mid-80s CrMo", but they all usually run the cable through the guide under the BB.
I wonder how much extra you'd have to pay in order to leave the Holden behind?
- frailer5
- Posts: 978
- Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:25 am
- Location: Sydney
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby frailer5 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:04 pm
But, looks like fleabay geo-blocks you from even contacting the seller. Anyone experienced this?
Ricardo Elite, '87 Keith Davis/Pegasus, '92 Team Miyata Ti.
-
- Posts: 622
- Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:13 am
- Location: Nillumbik, Vic
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby wqlava1 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:10 pm
Yes, but I think i got around it by setting my address in ebay as well as in PayPal (which normally determines where things are sent) to my MyUS address. Best of luck.frailer5 wrote:Looking at something on US fleabay. Seller has flagged 'Does not ship to Australia'. No probs, I have a myUS A/C in FL, which I use for work and play; consolidate parcels... ship around monthly.
But, looks like fleabay geo-blocks you from even contacting the seller. Anyone experienced this?
Edit - and remember to set them back after the transaction otherwise you may pay for twice across the Pacific for postage, or get some really high shipping prices putting you off bidding on local items here.
- HappyHumber
- Posts: 5072
- Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:48 pm
- Location: Perth, (S.o.R.) W.A.
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby HappyHumber » Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:30 pm
Just from the cross over period, I dare say. A bit like seeing 1" threaded forks on O/S tubing through the later 90s.barefoot wrote:The above-the-BB front gear cable routing is a bit unusual to my eye. Everything else says "generic Japanese mid-80s CrMo", but they all usually run the cable through the guide under the BB.
Hit me up via the BNA dm; I'll get an alert. If y'know, you know.
- Ferrovelo
- Posts: 543
- Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:07 am
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby Ferrovelo » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:04 am
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/wollongo ... 1040056122" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- Miyata_912
- Posts: 90
- Joined: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:13 pm
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby Miyata_912 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:20 am
looks original bar the seat. 1988 model.amrjon wrote:Nice looking miyata
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/wollongo ... 1040056122" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
1986 Team Miyata
1988 Miyata 912
Prototype handmade Bamboo 3 speed
1996 Kona Kilauea
- Miyata_912
- Posts: 90
- Joined: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:13 pm
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby Miyata_912 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:25 am
1986 Team Miyata
1988 Miyata 912
Prototype handmade Bamboo 3 speed
1996 Kona Kilauea
- QuangVuong
- Posts: 1794
- Joined: Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:04 pm
- Location: Villawood, Sydney
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby QuangVuong » Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:29 am
I wouldn't mind owning the road version of the Miyata Century.
Blog: https://villaveloframes.wordpress.com/
FB & IG: @villaveloframes
- frailer5
- Posts: 978
- Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:25 am
- Location: Sydney
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby frailer5 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:23 am
Wouldn't want to leave that outside ALDI for too long.
A TREK330 in Sydney. Apart from needing new break pads, and being highly sort after. all looks interesting.
Seller is camera-callenged, as well as grammar-challenged. Here's a bit of a better look. What were they, 4130 sorta stuff? Maybe about a 55? BioPace cranks, maybe?
Ricardo Elite, '87 Keith Davis/Pegasus, '92 Team Miyata Ti.
- rangersac
- Posts: 1438
- Joined: Thu May 24, 2012 11:01 am
- Location: Southern Tasmania
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby rangersac » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:08 pm
I've seen a few of these in the flesh and they seem well put together, as well as having paint that is pretty resistant to the passage of time. I think in general they were made from Reynolds 531 tube sets so should be robust enough. I'd certainly consider one if it came up in my size.frailer5 wrote:A TREK330 in Sydney. What were they, 4130 sorta stuff?
- frailer5
- Posts: 978
- Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:25 am
- Location: Sydney
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby frailer5 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:47 pm
Interesting. To satisfy my own curiosity I've messaged the seller and asked for a TT measurement, as well as HT. Yes, I described what to do... I'll post here if they get back to me.rangersac wrote:I've seen a few of these in the flesh and they seem well put together, as well as having paint that is pretty resistant to the passage of time. I think in general they were made from Reynolds 531 tube sets so should be robust enough. I'd certainly consider one if it came up in my size.frailer5 wrote:A TREK330 in Sydney. What were they, 4130 sorta stuff?
Ricardo Elite, '87 Keith Davis/Pegasus, '92 Team Miyata Ti.
-
- Posts: 80
- Joined: Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:27 pm
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby adam_b83 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:55 pm
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage-Mint ... 331wt_1120" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
that wishbone..
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage-Near ... 354wt_1120" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
that smirk!
- singlespeedscott
- Posts: 5510
- Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:35 pm
- Location: Elimbah, Queensland
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby singlespeedscott » Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:57 pm
Why the HT?frailer5 wrote:Interesting. To satisfy my own curiosity I've messaged the seller and asked for a TT measurement, as well as HT. Yes, I described what to do... I'll post here if they get back to me.rangersac wrote:I've seen a few of these in the flesh and they seem well put together, as well as having paint that is pretty resistant to the passage of time. I think in general they were made from Reynolds 531 tube sets so should be robust enough. I'd certainly consider one if it came up in my size.frailer5 wrote:A TREK330 in Sydney. What were they, 4130 sorta stuff?
- barefoot
- Posts: 1203
- Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:05 am
- Location: Ballarat
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby barefoot » Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:48 pm
Second most important measurement on a bike frame, IMO.singlespeedscott wrote:Why the HT?
Seat tube length is irrelevant, up to a point, because I can move the seatpost up and down (and buy a longer one if I need it).
Head tube length is important, because there's only so much adjustment you can make to a quill stem, and only so many spacers you can add or remove under a threadless stem.
Top tube length is key, because anything else you change to adjust the length of the cockpit (saddle position WRT cranks, stem length, bar reach) changes ergonomics or handling.
Anything with a short top tube and long head tube has my name on it
- singlespeedscott
- Posts: 5510
- Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:35 pm
- Location: Elimbah, Queensland
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby singlespeedscott » Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:33 pm
On an old steel frame with an horizontal top tube it is irrelevant.barefoot wrote:Second most important measurement on a bike frame, IMO.singlespeedscott wrote:Why the HT?
Seat tube length is irrelevant, up to a point, because I can move the seatpost up and down (and buy a longer one if I need it).
Head tube length is important, because there's only so much adjustment you can make to a quill stem, and only so many spacers you can add or remove under a threadless stem.
Top tube length is key, because anything else you change to adjust the length of the cockpit (saddle position WRT cranks, stem length, bar reach) changes ergonomics or handling.
Anything with a short top tube and long head tube has my name on it
Old steel frames should be fitted like they were intended, not forced to fit like some modern bike. Their handling characteristics are not the same as a modern bike.
The measurements that matters the most with old steel bikes is the centre of bottom bracket to the top of the set tube. Top tube length is usually accommodated by adjustment in stem length.
If your old steel frame requires you to use a seatpost with more then 15cm of extension it's to small. Quill stems such as Cinelli and Nitto only give you about 7.5-8.5cm of max extension. Add about 3.5cm for the headset extension above the top tube and your done. Work out how much saddle to bar drop you like and go from there.
ie say your preferred saddle height is 76cm and you like a drop of 70mm you really should be looking for a steel frame with a seat tube c-t top measurement ranging from 57cm to 60cm.
-
- Posts: 922
- Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:55 pm
- Location: SOR.perth.au
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby cray- » Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:08 pm
Sold for $119, quite high considering the state of it. If it was bigger and in WA I would've pilfered it just for those damn panto forks!!!! [fistshake]LugNut wrote:There's also a ratty looking but very small Nishiki Cresta in Queensland. Seems to be a pretty underrated sport touring bike from what I can see.munga wrote:that nishiki is a bit small for me, but i'm watching it all the same. I know the guy selling it, but he's no dealmaker. 4 bids, all by the first and only bidder, so i expect it to go a bit silly anyway.
- ldrcycles
- Posts: 9594
- Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:19 pm
- Location: Kin Kin, Queensland
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby ldrcycles » Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:08 pm
At the risk of going OT and getting in trouble again, I call bunkum on that (in a nice way of course ). The problem with that approach is that it gets you the "traditional" position of being ridiculously stretched out which will destroy your back in short order, unless you are able to find an incredibly short stem which might then make the handling twitchy. Plus the larger frame means more weight, so it's lose-lose. When picking a frame having the correct top tube length to allow a comfortable reach is the ONLY measurement of any real importance, whether it's steel or carbon, brand new or a hundred years old. Fashion is fleeting but you only get one spine .singlespeedscott wrote:
On an old steel frame with an horizontal top tube it is irrelevant.
Old steel frames should be fitted like they were intended, not forced to fit like some modern bike. Their handling characteristics are not the same as a modern bike.
The measurements that matters the most with old steel bikes is the centre of bottom bracket to the top of the set tube. Top tube length is usually accommodated by adjustment in stem length.
If your old steel frame requires you to use a seatpost with more then 15cm of extension it's to small. Quill stems such as Cinelli and Nitto only give you about 7.5-8.5cm of max extension. Add about 3.5cm for the headset extension above the top tube and your done. Work out how much saddle to bar drop you like and go from there.
ie say your preferred saddle height is 76cm and you like a drop of 70mm you really should be looking for a steel frame with a seat tube c-t top measurement ranging from 57cm to 60cm.
- singlespeedscott
- Posts: 5510
- Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:35 pm
- Location: Elimbah, Queensland
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby singlespeedscott » Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:44 pm
- frailer5
- Posts: 978
- Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:25 am
- Location: Sydney
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby frailer5 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:04 pm
Steering clear of the above discussion, as I can't really give a scientific reasoning to my original request to the seller. :shrug: Got a feeling the topic may be difficult to put to bed.
Ricardo Elite, '87 Keith Davis/Pegasus, '92 Team Miyata Ti.
-
- Posts: 5131
- Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:41 pm
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby rkelsen » Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:08 pm
But back in the day, they didn't make every bike in 15 sizes. They'd make small, medium and large. And many of them had the same TT length for all 3 sizes.ldrcycles wrote:At the risk of going OT and getting in trouble again, I call bunkum on that (in a nice way of course ). The problem with that approach is that it gets you the "traditional" position of being ridiculously stretched out which will destroy your back in short order, unless you are able to find an incredibly short stem which might then make the handling twitchy. Plus the larger frame means more weight, so it's lose-lose. When picking a frame having the correct top tube length to allow a comfortable reach is the ONLY measurement of any real importance, whether it's steel or carbon, brand new or a hundred years old. Fashion is fleeting but you only get one spine .
I may well be wrong, but I believe that this is the angle Mr. Singlespeedscott is coming from with that post.
-
- Posts: 852
- Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:33 pm
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby Lots of steel bikes » Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:13 pm
How and why does a modern bike handle differently to an old steel bike?singlespeedscott wrote: Old steel frames should be fitted like they were intended, not forced to fit like some modern bike. Their handling characteristics are not the same as a modern bike.
- singlespeedscott
- Posts: 5510
- Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:35 pm
- Location: Elimbah, Queensland
Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby singlespeedscott » Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:23 pm
- General Australian Cycling Topics
- Info / announcements
- Buying a bike / parts
- General Cycling Discussion
- The Bike Shed
- Cycling Health
- Cycling Safety and Advocacy
- Women's Cycling
- Bike & Gear Reviews
- Cycling Trade
- Stolen Bikes
- Bicycle FAQs
- The Market Place
- Member to Member Bike and Gear Sales
- Want to Buy, Group Buy, Swap
- My Bikes or Gear Elsewhere
- Serious Biking
- Audax / Randonneuring
- Retro biking
- Commuting
- MTB
- Recumbents
- Fixed Gear/ Single Speed
- Track
- Electric Bicycles
- Cyclocross and Gravel Grinding
- Dragsters / Lowriders / Cruisers
- Children's Bikes
- Cargo Bikes and Utility Cycling
- Road Racing
- Road Biking
- Training
- Time Trial
- Triathlon
- International and National Tours and Events
- Cycle Touring
- Touring Australia
- Touring Overseas
- Touring Bikes and Equipment
- Australia
- Western Australia
- New South Wales
- Queensland
- South Australia
- Victoria
- ACT
- Tasmania
- Northern Territory
- Country & Regional
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users
- All times are UTC+10:00
- Top
- Delete cookies
About the Australian Cycling Forums
The Australian Cycling Forums is a welcoming community where you can ask questions and talk about the type of bikes and cycling topics you like.
Bicycles Network Australia
Forum Information
Connect with BNA
This website uses affiliate links to retail platforms including ebay, amazon, proviz and ribble.