Recommend some road pedals
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby trailgumby » Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:09 am
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby eeksll » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:57 am
jacks1071 wrote:Speedplay have a few models, I use the X-series which use no pressure to unclip - once you heel is at the release angle you are out. No need to SNAP or FLICK it out..eeksll wrote:speedplays are harder to get our of than spds. Normally never had an issue, but after a couple of hard runs (as in running) my ankles where a bit sore and unclipping the speed plays (zeros) was almost a clipstack moment.
Most people these days tend to purchase the Zero model but I still prefer the older X-series.
Admittedly I did get the zeros cause it seemed to be the ones to get. That and I got a bit confused with the different models and exactly what the differences where.
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby Baalzamon » Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:50 pm
One thing tho. Great while walking, if your gotta stop in sand etc that will get into the cleat area. So I'm now thinking of getting the cafe covers as well so if I have to take off my keep on and put the cafe covers on I won't gunk up my cleat
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby cage » Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:51 pm
Full story about halfway down.
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum ... 0&start=30
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby KGB » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:06 pm
If there is a need for resistance free float then Keywins would be great. The pedal body can actually float on the axle so you cant adjust the AMOUNT of float but you can make it stiffer or looser by a rubber washer under a screw on the pedal. I use the small shin that locks the pedal in place, no float for me.
Walking in the cleats isn't great but at least the parts you walk on aren't the parts that engage with the pedal so "wear" from walking isn't much of an issue.
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby KGB » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:08 pm
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Postby trailgumby » Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:51 pm
After riding the MTB on the weekend, it takes me most of the first commute to get used to the different engagement action again, by which time I've almost been rear-ended a couple of times as I take off and then have my foot slip off the upside down pedal.
Most of the guys I see on Shimano road pedals have to look down to to clip in.
The double sided speedplays look like a win all round.
Edit: Bugger, no they don't. That's horrendous corporate bullying. They actually had some of my eBay listings shut down when I advertised for sale some pedal spanners as being compatible with Speedplay, which I'd forgotten about until I read that article. Pigs.
So, Keywin users: how do they hang when your foot is not in them. Do they stay flat or hang rear-down?
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby Baalzamon » Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:53 pm
I've bought and sold speedplay pedals on here
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby trailgumby » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:46 pm
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby Nobody » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:29 pm
Thanks for the update TG. What happened with Keywin?trailgumby wrote:Speedplay Zeros arrived this morning from Wiggle. $118.80 post paid.
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby rodneycc » Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:46 pm
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby trailgumby » Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:05 pm
Took them for a 60km spin today around Frenchs Forest, St Ives and Duffys Forest.
I wasn't real impressed when I tried them on the trainer on Christmas Eve - lots of force required to get the spring retainer to engage, a bit hit and miss with getting the foot in the right place, and probably worse on that score than the 105's. I was thinking, "how the hell am I going to commute with these things?"
But the time I invested in getting the Q-factor and release angles set correctly paid off today. No knee pain after the ride. All but one take-off from traffic lights was fine. Just needs a bit of twist of the ankles as suggested in the instructions and they go in.
If they loosen up a little after a few rides as has been suggested I'll be a happy man.
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby trailgumby » Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:17 pm
Ah, the whole single-sided thing was a turn-off. More so than Peedpalsy's threatening behaviour to perceived "infringers", which is usually a real hot-button with me. I looked for the BeBop's as an alternative without success.Nobody wrote:Thanks for the update TG. What happened with Keywin?trailgumby wrote:Speedplay Zeros arrived this morning from Wiggle. $118.80 post paid.
TBH I'd kinda forgotten about Keywin as there was no response to my query below. There was one other single-sided candidate that looked like it might hang appropriately (for me) but again, no response when I asked the question. So I pulled the trigger on a pair of speedplays.
I must say the instructions are hard to read. Tiny weenie black print on red and dark orange paper. And don't get me started on them using Phillips head screws instead of allen or Torx.
But so far they do seem to perform well. Will update in a couple of months when they've had more use.
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby Nobody » Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:09 pm
Thanks for the reply, I'll wait for your update.trailgumby wrote:...But so far they do seem to perform well. Will update in a couple of months when they've had more use.
Still having problems with the 105s. I've got the left cleat adjusted as I want it (cleat back, outside of foot with a slight twist to toe out) but now I can only disengage the left foot by twisting inwards. Caused one clip stack already.
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby warthog1 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:20 pm
The only time I've had trouble with shimanos not releasing is when the cleats have been on there too long and the back of the pedal had worn a groove in the ramping area of the cleat.
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby Nobody » Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:30 pm
Thanks, but the cleats are fairly new and the tension is all the way out. I'm used to it now. Maybe I'll be yet another Speedplay customer in the future. I'd still be on SPDs if it wasn't for my knees.warthog1 wrote:You do realise the spring tension on the pedal is adjustable?
The only time I've had trouble with shimanos not releasing is when the cleats have been on there too long and the back of the pedal had worn a groove in the ramping area of the cleat.
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby trailgumby » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:01 am
The Speedplays are excellent. The float is good and if you are used to mtb SPDs you'll be right at home with pedalling these. The knee capsule irritation from sticky cleats is gone. The float action feels almost friction free.
Float is adjustable but spring tension is not. You do need to use chain loob on the spring to keep them easy to engage but once every couple of weeks works for me.
I still find it interesting on weekend rides that lots of experienced roadies still apparently have a lot of trouble clipping into their single sided road pedals. The majority seem to faff about for ages when moving off from the lights. Not something I'm at all comfortable with in traffic.
Engagement is not quite as easy as mtb - it requires almost my body weight on the bottom of the pedal stroke to click in. The upside is that if I don't quite get it in firat time I can still push a couple if pedal strokes without my foot suddenly slipping off with a taxi up my backside, as has happened a couple of times with the SPD-SLs.
My conclusion: almost but not quite as good as mtb pedals for ease of entry and exit, equal for float action and superior for platform stability.
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby kb » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:15 am
Probably confused by stopping at lights at all .trailgumby wrote: I still find it interesting on weekend rides that lots of experienced roadies still apparently have a lot of trouble clipping into their single sided road pedals. The majority seem to faff about for ages when moving off from the lights. Not something I'm at all comfortable with in traffic.
I found moving from MTB SPDs to Look Keos took about 1,000km before I clipped in quickly, which definitely surprised me - I thought I was a quicker study than that.. Nowadays it's pretty instant though, and the rare cases when there's a miss, it's pretty easy to keep pedalling and fix it on the run, even on 10% grades.
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby rodneycc » Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:58 am
I would use the frogs more on the road bike if they just audibly clicked so you knew you where in. Something in in between the frogs and the zeros would be ideal so I want to try some Light Actions next.
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
Postby trailgumby » Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:23 am
Interesting! What are these Light Actions whereforof you speak? Forsooth et cetera...rodneycc wrote:Something in in between the frogs and the zeros would be ideal so I want to try some Light Actions next.
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Re: Recommend some road pedals
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