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Re: ACF Strava Club
Postby TonyMax » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:17 pm
Why for instance was this segment flagged as hazardous?
http://www.strava.com/segments/880293" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The only thing I can think of is too many people leaving Strava running and getting ~90km/h readings from in the car...
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Re: ACF Strava Club
Postby Lukeyboy » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:29 pm
And the nanny police are back to flagging segments!
http://app.strava.com/segments/5196201" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://app.strava.com/segments/2504182" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://app.strava.com/segments/4882539" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: ACF Strava Club
Postby ironhanglider » Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:05 pm
Duplicate for http://www.strava.com/segments/1083143?TonyMax wrote:I guess being a shared app/system/framework we have to deal with the hand we're given by the administrators, other users and our GPS devices.
Why for instance was this segment flagged as hazardous?
http://www.strava.com/segments/880293" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The only thing I can think of is too many people leaving Strava running and getting ~90km/h readings from in the car...
Certainly not dangerous and seems to be exactly what a strava segment should be to me.
This is why it'd be nice if there was some sort of review/moderation/discussion. Although a mass email to everyone who rode a segment with a 'Someone thinks that this segment is dangerous because [insert text here].' With buttons for a survey "Do you Agree/disagree/don't care?" has the potential to be really annoying.
Or even a moderated discussion (no names, no pack-drill) between the flagger and the segment creator.
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Re: ACF Strava Club
Postby g-boaf » Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:46 am
Yes, lead outs is correct - that has been done. Not by me though. The riders around my area are very, very fast. A graders or better.Lukeyboy wrote:Max efforts? PleaseXplora wrote:KOMs aren't built on knowledge, but max efforts for the required distance, perhaps a leadout, perhaps a tailwind, perhaps a wheel to hunt down. This IS part of the issue.
When it gets to people doing lead outs for segments, that's when I give it a miss. I don't want to go that fast.
However, I have never flagged a segment. It is up to the riders to ride in a manner safe to the conditions.
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Re: ACF Strava Club
Postby Lukeyboy » Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:49 pm
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Re: ACF Strava Club
Postby darkelf921 » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:07 pm
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Re: ACF Strava Club
Postby Lukeyboy » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:56 pm
More KOMs for me thendarkelf921 wrote:Remind me to not ride with you in a group ride Lukeyboy
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Re: ACF Strava Club
Postby darkelf921 » Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:12 pm
Hahahaha I don't think that's a problemLukeyboy wrote:More KOMs for me thendarkelf921 wrote:Remind me to not ride with you in a group ride Lukeyboy
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Re: ACF Strava Club
Postby find_bruce » Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:16 pm
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Re: ACF Strava Club
Postby kb » Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:29 am
I have sympathy for that point if view but did end up flagging a narrowish bridge shared with dog walking pedestrians. It's probably a whole 30m long. Really, what's the point? Not that flagging does a lot of good. The segments just end up being recreated..g-boaf wrote: However, I have never flagged a segment. It is up to the riders to ride in a manner safe to the conditions.
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Re: ACF Strava Club
Postby vosadrian » Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:42 am
So why bother flagging it then?kb wrote:I have sympathy for that point if view but did end up flagging a narrowish bridge shared with dog walking pedestrians. It's probably a whole 30m long. Really, what's the point? Not that flagging does a lot of good. The segments just end up being recreated..g-boaf wrote: However, I have never flagged a segment. It is up to the riders to ride in a manner safe to the conditions.
My real issue with this is that everyone has a different idea of what is hazardous. I have seen several segments that I cannot grasp how someone thought they were hazardous, and it frustrates me that that a good segment is no longer available. I can only conclude that someone flagged it because they lost the KOM and could not get it back... or just for the fun of it maybe?
I see some segments around me that I do consider hazardous, but I don't flag them. People who ride bikes like any other form of transport or leisure activity need to learn to take responsibility for their own decisions and accept the consequences and not try and blame someone else for their poor decisions. Of course their poor decision may impact someone else, and that is unfortunate, but this happens many times a day in many activities other than cycling also.
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Re: ACF Strava Club
Postby toolonglegs » Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:28 pm
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Re: ACF Strava Club
Postby kb » Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:09 am
Admittedly irritation.vosadrian wrote:So why bother flagging it then?kb wrote:I have sympathy for that point if view but did end up flagging a narrowish bridge shared with dog walking pedestrians. It's probably a whole 30m long. Really, what's the point? Not that flagging does a lot of good. The segments just end up being recreated..g-boaf wrote: However, I have never flagged a segment. It is up to the riders to ride in a manner safe to the conditions.
Seeing I had the KOM on a ridiculous segment I didn't know of, reminded me of regularly seeing the impact of inconsiderate behaviour on the elderly, the young and the less confident on a stretch too short for any sensible metrics.
It was a one-off, as thinking about it afterwards, anyone it would make reconsider would probably be more careful anyway. I'm over it now, and mainly just trying to set a good example by my riding.
The number of low quality, extremely short or overlapping segments is also a bit bemusing, but I guess was always going to be unavoidable.
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Re: ACF Strava Club
Postby find_bruce » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:20 pm
+1 - I thought that is what hiding a segment was meant to do - if enough people hide it then it is hidden by default. Not sure if it works in practicetoolonglegs wrote:Instead of hazardous, we should be able to label them pointless!.
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Re: ACF Strava Club
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Re: ACF Strava Club
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Re: ACF Strava Club
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Re: ACF Strava Club
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Re: ACF Strava Club
Postby toolonglegs » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:57 pm
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Re: ACF Strava Club
Postby anttismo » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:24 pm
Ummm, that'd be metoolonglegs wrote:.... except Antti Papinniemi, sorry can't work out who your are!...
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Re: ACF Strava Club
Postby DTdotcom » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:58 pm
Just hit the follow, welcome to Brissieanttismo wrote:Ummm, that'd be metoolonglegs wrote:.... except Antti Papinniemi, sorry can't work out who your are!...
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