Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
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Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby EddyD » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:40 pm
My name is Eddy, Belgian and i'm travelling Darwin to Cairns in 1 week.
I'd like to buy a (good) bike, and all the stuffs i need to enjoy the trip, but a lot of questions.
2500 kms in 3 weeks, ok? too hard?
What kind of bike? => i have to be fast, a lil bit of comfort and ive got maybe 20-25 kgs in my Bags.
Wheels, ...
Are the Roads good to ride.. maybe a lot of dirty, sandy roads.
What do U think about this?
Darwin-Adelaide River- Mataranka - Daly waters - Bullwady camp - CAP crawford - Booroloola - The quarry - Settelment creek - King fisher - Burketown -
Leichardt falls - Normanton - Croydon - Georgetown - Mt surprise - Mt Garnet - Atherton - Cairns
Somebody have done this before?
All suggest or advice or opinion welcome ;]
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby Warin » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:39 am
Then dirt to Burketown. Good dirt. Corrugations and creek crossings. There is not much in the way of supplies here .. think it is Hells Gate where you might pick up something.. then Doomagee. Wollogorang was closed to tourist last time I looked. King Fisher camp is a little out of the way and has deep sand on the way in/out, so I'd give it a miss, good people though. Aprox 500 km .. so at 100 km/day 5 days .. you'd want say 4 days of food on board .. and say 3 days of water. How much experience do you have?
From Burketown on you can have sealed roads ... don't miss Innot Hot springs out that way.
3 weeks? I'd take longer.. I trust you have seen Kakadu and Litchfield before you leave the Darwin area.
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby EddyD » Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:00 am
I don't have a lot of mountain bike experience but i 've good legs and I'm a sport teacher, usually I run but this time I'd like to try This.
Its 3 weeks the challenge, because I'll ride for an association against cancer. But I've 3 days more if I need it.
Its a long way on dirty roads, I hope I'll be strong enough and if I want I may sleep whenever I need if the spot is too far (king fisher)
And yes I'll see the national parks before to leave , I can't miss this
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby EddyD » Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:37 am
300kms more but need a lil bit less water and sealed roads
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby elantra » Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:55 am
Not sure, its a LONG way to go in little more than 3 weeks, on long lonely boring roads with big trucks at high speeds.EddyD wrote:Maybe safer to reach three ways and go till camooweal or cloncurry to join after burketown/ normanton?
300kms more but need a lil bit less water and sealed roads
Perhaps consider taking a "short cut" by taking a ride on the train.
http://www.railaustralia.com.au/pdf/tra ... us_map.pdf
You could consider train from Mt Isa to Cairns, or Normanton to Croydon, or Mt Surprise to Cairns.
http://www.savannahlander.com.au/genera ... route-map/
Worth a thought, because i doubt it would be much fun riding the highway from Darwin to Mt Isa.
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby EddyD » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:04 am
I think I could see more on the first way I said yeah, just need to search where I can find water or food on the road now .
You're right, riding only the highway could be boring
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby oxonabike » Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:25 pm
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby EddyD » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:54 pm
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby Warin » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:32 am
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby barefoot » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:31 am
The Australian outback may not be the best place for a first try at long distance bike touring.EddyD wrote:G'day warin, thanks for your ad.
I don't have a lot of mountain bike experience but i 've good legs and I'm a sport teacher, usually I run but this time I'd like to try This.
Its 3 weeks the challenge, because I'll ride for an association against cancer. But I've 3 days more if I need it.
Its a long way on dirty roads, I hope I'll be strong enough and if I want I may sleep whenever I need if the spot is too far (king fisher)
And yes I'll see the national parks before to leave , I can't miss this
Sure, it's possible to ride through those places. And no doubt you have the general fitness - although running fitness and cycling fitness are not directly interchangeable.
But if you're not well experienced at bike touring (particularly on dirt), and if you don't have experience of living rough in the gulf and cape country... combining the two is a very big deal.
And if I understand correctly, you're thinking of doing this solo and unsupported?
Knowing which sort of bike to get will be the least of your troubles. Don't underestimate the size of the task you're planning.
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby Baalzamon » Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:53 pm
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby il padrone » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:10 pm
Whoah!!!EddyD wrote:2500 kms in 3 weeks, ok? too hard?
That makes for an average daily distance of 120kms. If you ride every day. Take say, three days for rest, some sightseeing, and mechanicals and the average daily jumps out to 140kms. On mostly corrugated dirt and bull-dust roads. In the remote Gulf Country. You must be a superman.
It must be a bit of a European thing - underestimating the size/distances in Australia, and the enormity of travelling this land. This guy set out to do a record-busting ride around Australia (and he wasn't even going on dirt roads), but after getting about halfway he had a bit of a breakdown (day 30). I think on his third attempt he succeeded.
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby rama » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:35 pm
The real question is whether Eddy plans a tour of the Top End or a race against the clock.
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby il padrone » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:48 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby GH » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:06 pm
The Australian outback is harsh beyond the imagination of many Europeans, and for a first tour/holiday I really believe a ride down a populated and quite scenic coast is much more appropriate than a slog across that road and area I have driven many times. Its hard/boring/hazardous in a car, let alone first time on a bicycle.
Please reconsider your route and enjoy a visit to our great country, not risk life an limb in a very hostile environment. There is so much beauty to be seen in Australia, but that part of it is not where its at.
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby joshin » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:22 pm
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby Warin » Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:47 am
Road train =joshin wrote:I also think they are used to trucks being 18 wheelers max, not the road trains that use our outback roads, off the top of my head 34 odd wheels or something. Re think your route.
1 'Tractor' 'Prime mover; 10 wheels
3 'Trailers'; 8 wheels each
2 connectors - don't know what these are called .. but they go at the front of the trailers; 8 wheels each
total; 10+ 3*8 + 2 *8 = 50 wheels
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Unfortunately there is a mine out Lawn Hill way .. because of the weight of the ore they reduce the length of the trailer while still using the same number of wheels .. to make up for the reduced length they use 5 trailers.. so
total = 10 + 5*8 + 4 *8 = 82 wheels IIRC.
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Rainfall over the last week .. from the BOM
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby il padrone » Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:49 am
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby barefoot » Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:17 pm
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby PapaJohn » Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:18 pm
Naivety is a wondrous thing. It's a wonder more don't perish on account of it.
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby Warin » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:54 am
The world would never have been explored without some of it. Any explorer has some of it, otherwise it would not be exploring . If someone wants to do something .. and has considered it, and sought info .. then I think it is really up to them to make the decision/s.PapaJohn wrote:Naivety is a wondrous thing. It's a wonder more don't perish on account of it.
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby il padrone » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:43 am
All up to him whether he takes note of any advice, of course.
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby PapaJohn » Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:07 pm
A tour as a physical test - Yeah I've done it that way for that reason, prior to undertaking a bigger trip. Test the equipment, test the body, for 8 days, a "shakedown" so to speak,with the expectation that some adjustment to the bike, the kit, or the attitude may be necessary prior to embarking on the much longer trip of a month or so. It was a test only. A consideration of the viability of the plan. To do otherwise, particularly in the completely unfamiliar, borders on foolhardy. This is an exploration.
So is the unfolding of each day, on the "real" trip - the up close and personal relationship with the surrounds, the opportunity to experience some things that you couldn't any other way. Circumstance and conditions will always explore the capabilities, particularly where one is going to be exposed to the requirements of the terrain, the heat/cold, lack of water, wildlife, equipment failures, one's own lack of skills/ingenuity or unrealistic expectations. Isn't that enough?
Don't add complete unfamiliarity with the environment.
Suck it and see. Don't eat the whole box straight up lest it not agree with one.
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
Postby bhirons » Wed May 13, 2015 9:00 pm
and i have a few questions, maybe you or meditator can help? Would really appreciate any advice/assistance?
road side camping / bushing camping between roper bar and Borroloola and then borroloola and doomadgee - is this fine/allowed?
and similarly water - did you carry it all between roper bar and Borroloola and then borroloola and doomadgee? or can you use and filter river / creek water from the crossings?
(Still deciding if I should go via roper bar or daly waters / Cape Crawford).
Thanks.
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Re: Darwin-Cairns (Savanah Way)
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