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Grrrrr. 192cm, back up to 98kg from 93kg after a slow winter, my FTP was around 390W back in January. Originally 127kg, spent the last few years at 105kg before getting over that plateau, but my body is fighting back ATM.thearthurdog wrote:Yeah I reckon I've still got a few kg to go. 83-84 kg has been my target and I should get there soon. Hoping the watts keep sneaking up as well !
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When I get back to canberra, I'll post some examples.thearthurdog wrote:Enlighten me ? ! ?
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Postby mikesbytes » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:51 am
Thanks for putting it in layman terms, I struggle to understand the tech figures.Alex Simmons/RST wrote:As a rule of thumb, a reduction in Crr of 0.0005 or a reduction in CdA of 0.005m^2 is equivalent to about 5W power, which translates to aroud 0.5 seconds per km faster
While understanding its a rough rule of thumb I can look at my NSW ITT result, where I was a massive 6.76 seconds per K off the winner while making the assumption that 1 second = 10W as me at a 67.6W deflict. Anyway whatever the exact figure is, I'm a long way off.
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Postby anttismo » Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:14 pm
toolonglegs wrote:Having seen a few pics of you on your blog I was surprised by this... you don't look it!.thearthurdog wrote:I am 193cm tall and 86kg.
SO... ftp around 370w (AT) 86kgs ... seeing what your doing with that wpkg gives me motivation to drop those last few kgs! .
Bit of a thread revival....twizzle wrote:Grrrrr. 192cm, back up to 98kg from 93kg after a slow winter, my FTP was around 390W back in January. Originally 127kg, spent the last few years at 105kg before getting over that plateau, but my body is fighting back ATM...thearthurdog wrote:Yeah I reckon I've still got a few kg to go. 83-84 kg has been my target and I should get there soon. Hoping the watts keep sneaking up as well !
Very imformative thread, so thanks arthur, alex, twizzle, TTL, and others Reading the above is kind of pulling my "inspiriation" strings.
I'm around 192 cm, ball park maybe 350ish W FTP, but I am heavier. I once was enourmously over weight, but have been pretty happy at 100kg in the last 2 or 3 years.
So letting the side down in the weight stakes, maybe I need to simply start applying some discipline, cut back on all those carbs that power me. Maybe trying and get down to 90kg is an interesting project. Certainly seems potentially easier than upping the wattage
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Postby toolonglegs » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:00 pm
20w or 50w jump?Xplora wrote:Comes down to the value of your weight. I've been questioned about the wisdom of adding 1.5kgs of water weight from Creatine use, but if that's going to give me an extra 20w FTP, I don't care at all. FTP at 250W for 72kgs vs FTP 300W for 74?
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Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:51 pm
I doubt creatine will do all that much to enhance your aerobic power capabilities.Xplora wrote:but if that's going to give me an extra 20w FTP
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Postby Xplora » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:55 pm
Definitely not sure.... but to be honest, I wasn't physically capable of doing a race beyond 220W avg, 260W normalised two months ago, but I averaged 255W for 65 minutes and got 311 normalised, including a couple attacks at my race on Monday. I'm comparing apples with apples. It's been a big jump and I'm noticing a lot more hurt from the guys I've ridden with in the past.thearthurdog wrote:50w is an INSANE improvement - are you sure your FTP was accurate to begin with?
Not big noting, just saying that the hard work has paid off!
(Alex, I totally agree Creatine did nothing to improve aerobic, I think it's helped the Anaerobic stuff so I am not slaughtered out of the corners or up the short hills, so I'm getting a better chance to stay aerobic for the rest... I guess it's pulling the FTP up, rather than pushing it up... highly imperfect bro science though, how much to look at my data? LOL)
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Postby toolonglegs » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:07 pm
Big drop !.
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Postby mikesbytes » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:27 pm
From what I can gather about creatine, it seems to increase your water retention and therefor make you heavier. Some body builders think its great and others see it as providing no value. Outside of body building its irrelevantAlex Simmons/RST wrote:I doubt creatine will do all that much to enhance your aerobic power capabilities.Xplora wrote:but if that's going to give me an extra 20w FTP
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