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Postby ldrcycles » Sun May 25, 2014 8:45 am
As said above, there needs to be a lot of education done to try and get through to people that the limit is just that, the maximum speed you are allowed to do, not the speed you must do at all times. Most of the time i don't go much above 80 anyway, it gets me up to 200kms more from a tank!
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Postby find_bruce » Sun May 25, 2014 9:16 am
Pretty close - the speedo must read within 10% above the actual speed - ie if the speedo is reading 100 km/h, the car must be travelling between 90 & 100 km/h.ldrcycles wrote:To me the only issue with having a 3kmh leeway is the fact cars are only required to have speedos accurate to within 10kmh at 100! (correct me on that if i'm wrong).
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Postby CXCommuter » Sun May 25, 2014 9:35 am
Separately- I got fined for the first time in a decade in Swan Valley- 10km over the limit- missed the change in speed limit from 70 to 60 (inattentiveness leading to speeding because I was on the phone whilst tailgating a truck).
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Postby il padrone » Sun May 25, 2014 10:01 am
I think you will find that the police will tell you that the use of fixed speed cameras, mobile cameras manned by non-police, and red-light cameras, has enabled police to put greater man-hours into other more critical police work, whether that be traffic-related or other criminal invetigation. This is rather self-evident and runs counter to your premise.CXCommuter wrote:My whole issue with the speeding campaign is that I see it as a lazy item for Police to address. You are either speeding or not and they don't even need to be around with fixed cameras. With an emphasis on speeding all the other issues are just ignored
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Postby herzog » Sun May 25, 2014 10:16 am
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To his credit, posting a mistake of his own.
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Postby CXCommuter » Sun May 25, 2014 11:41 am
Complete opposite to what several police friends have advised me (NSW) off the record of course. Paperwork and ass covering is the name of the game mostly (like most jobs these days). If the use of cameras etc frees cops up to do other traffic related work but point out where the hell are they- I rarely if ever see them doing anything on roads other than speed cameras (especially on public holidays) and once or twice a year breath testing.il padrone wrote:I think you will find that the police will tell you that the use of fixed speed cameras, mobile cameras manned by non-police, and red-light cameras, has enabled police to put greater man-hours into other more critical police work, whether that be traffic-related or other criminal invetigation. This is rather self-evident and runs counter to your premise.CXCommuter wrote:My whole issue with the speeding campaign is that I see it as a lazy item for Police to address. You are either speeding or not and they don't even need to be around with fixed cameras. With an emphasis on speeding all the other issues are just ignored
Your comment sounds like an advert/fixed response from the police to this question
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Postby queequeg » Sun May 25, 2014 12:13 pm
I tried to find out how many of the car accidents in NSW are caused by speeding, I discovered that conveniently, in nsw these stats are not recorded. instead, they attribute "speeding" to include both "exceeding the posted limit" and also "driving at a speed excessive for conditions". It essentially allows them to say that "speed" is a factor in pretty much every collision (as two stationary objects can't collide with other!)warthog1 wrote:Yep, from the ads as long as you comply with the speed limit you have achieved all the competencies required to be a safe driver. Of course you should drive at a safe appropriate speed, but there is a bit more required.
Speed cameras can't detect someone "exceeding a safe speed for the conditions", and they are yet to invent a camera that detects stupidity.
I had to go out in the car yesterday to collect some supplies, and I was horrified by the standard of driving on display. Cars darting in and out of lanes without indicating, just to gain a one car advantage in the queue.
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Postby TraceyG » Mon May 26, 2014 1:17 pm
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/201 ... bike-stunt
This is scary to watch!
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Postby Percrime » Mon May 26, 2014 1:45 pm
Ok its stupid BUT......
Falling under the wheels would be an amazing act of skill. Really unlikely. Falling at 80 kph behind the bus is going to hurt a lot. BUT its not going to kill anyone with reasonable luck. Getting run over by the car behind.. Well.. a car should easily outbrake a sliding student using his face as a brake. Should. Given that the car driver has reasonable reflexes and is not trying too hard for that accusatory video.
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Postby human909 » Mon May 26, 2014 2:12 pm
How is this anymore "scary" and "dumb" than descending a mountain at 80kph-100kph?TraceyG wrote:This kid is seriously dumb and not likely to live too long if he keeps up with this sort of activity!
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/201 ... bike-stunt
This is scary to watch!
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Postby rdp_au » Mon May 26, 2014 2:23 pm
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Postby Percrime » Mon May 26, 2014 2:26 pm
By the same token not nearly as many people pull out in front of buses doing 80 as bicycles doing 80rdp_au wrote:A couple of things. He's riding one handed. His view and capacity to manoeuvre is limited by his proximity to the bus.
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Postby biker jk » Mon May 26, 2014 2:29 pm
If you needed to ask that question then perhaps stop riding bicycles and walk.human909 wrote:How is this anymore "scary" and "dumb" than descending a mountain at 80kph-100kph?TraceyG wrote:This kid is seriously dumb and not likely to live too long if he keeps up with this sort of activity!
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/201 ... bike-stunt
This is scary to watch!
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Postby queequeg » Mon May 26, 2014 2:30 pm
And he stayed in the bike lane the whole time too!rdp_au wrote:A couple of things. He's riding one handed. His view and capacity to manoeuvre is limited by his proximity to the bus.
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Postby human909 » Mon May 26, 2014 2:51 pm
One handed riding? That is dangerous now? Since when? His view is perfectly fine as is his ability to maneuver. Mind you, I don't see why he need room to maneuver.rdp_au wrote:A couple of things. He's riding one handed. His view and capacity to manoeuvre is limited by his proximity to the bus.
That is a poor argument. Please explain how that is more dangerous descending mountain roads or single track?biker jk wrote:If you needed to ask that question then perhaps stop riding bicycles and walk.
I've held onto friend's vehicles before. It is not particularly hard or dangerous.
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Postby WarbyD » Mon May 26, 2014 2:53 pm
One handed riding, at 80km/h, around motorists.. Yup. I'd say that's definitely dangerous, and has been for as long as it's been possible to do so. I have some dead horses to go and flog though, so i'll leave others to deal with headbutting this particular wall.human909 wrote:One handed riding? That is dangerous now? Since when? His view is perfectly fine as is his ability to maneuver. Mind you, I don't see why he need room to maneuver.rdp_au wrote:A couple of things. He's riding one handed. His view and capacity to manoeuvre is limited by his proximity to the bus.
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Postby biker jk » Mon May 26, 2014 2:55 pm
Oh, let me see now. What if the bus braked suddenly? What if he hit a pothole while riding one handed?human909 wrote:One handed riding? That is dangerous now? Since when? His view is perfectly fine as is his ability to maneuver. Mind you, I don't see why he need room to maneuver.rdp_au wrote:A couple of things. He's riding one handed. His view and capacity to manoeuvre is limited by his proximity to the bus.
That is a poor argument. Please explain how that is more dangerous descending mountain roads or single track?biker jk wrote:If you needed to ask that question then perhaps stop riding bicycles and walk.
I've held onto friend's vehicles before. It is not particularly hard or dangerous.
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Postby human909 » Mon May 26, 2014 3:00 pm
Nothing much. He would shoot past the bus on the left.biker jk wrote:Oh, let me see now. What if the bus braked suddenly?
Probably no different to what happens if he hits a pothole while drinking from his bidon. (Personally I don't find potholes are all worrisome riding one handed, but YMMV.)biker jk wrote:What if he hit a pothole while riding one handed?
You are quite correct that if you have difficulty controlling you bike one handed then you should not be riding like that. However many people don't have that difficulty.
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