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Re: Front Pannier Racks
Postby Espresso_ » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:31 am
At least the rack is on it's way ...
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Re: Front Pannier Racks
Postby Tim » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:42 am
I noticed the other day that PBK are still selling Ortleib gear to Australian customers, I think.Espresso_ wrote:Ergh. Bike 24 will not ship Ortliebs to Australia.
I bought all my Ortleib panniers from them a couple of years ago. At the time they were the best available price aroundabouts.
No time to check prices at the moment but might be worth a look.
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Re: Front Pannier Racks
Postby Wingnut » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:58 pm
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Re: Front Pannier Racks
Postby il padrone » Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:47 pm
Whoaagh! Bad news day. They have been my 'go-to guys' for all things Ortlieb after Wiggle took the same approach.Espresso_ wrote:Ergh. Bike 24 will not ship Ortliebs to Australia.
I'm pretty sure that St John Street Cycles will still sell Ortlieb, but their prices and shipping are higher than from Germany. Another good source to consider is The Touring Store, a small on-line store in the US with very good sevice.
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Front Pannier Racks
Postby alfine8 » Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:30 pm
They are even cheaper than the German online shops, and mine arrived less than 24hours after ordering.
Maybe there is a boycott or something that I don't know about.
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Re: Front Pannier Racks
Postby silentbutdeadly » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:21 pm
It's more about ignorance than anything else...Pushy's are cool.alfine8 wrote:Is there any reason why people don't use Pushy's to buy their Ortleibs.
They are even cheaper than the German online shops, and mine arrived less than 24hours after ordering.
Maybe there is a boycott or something that I don't know about.
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Re: Front Pannier Racks
Postby Aushiker » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:58 pm
I just did a test at http://bike24.net" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and there was no sign of a block ... I got to the take my credit card details point without problems. Normally Bike24.net states up front if it cannot ship to Australia (signed in).il padrone wrote:Whoaagh! Bad news day. They have been my 'go-to guys' for all things Ortlieb after Wiggle took the same approach.Espresso_ wrote:Ergh. Bike 24 will not ship Ortliebs to Australia.
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Front Pannier Racks
Postby Espresso_ » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:02 am
Yeah that's why I was disappointed to find out well after the event that they wouldn't ship them.Aushiker wrote:I just did a test at http://bike24.net" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and there was no sign of a block ... I got to the take my credit card details point without problems. Normally Bike24.net states up front if it cannot ship to Australia (signed in).il padrone wrote:Whoaagh! Bad news day. They have been my 'go-to guys' for all things Ortlieb after Wiggle took the same approach.Espresso_ wrote:Ergh. Bike 24 will not ship Ortliebs to Australia.
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It gets worse though:
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There were 10+ items in stock when I ordered. It took them 5 days to pick up that there was actually no stock?
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Re: Front Pannier Racks
Postby il padrone » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:03 am
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Front Pannier Racks
Postby Tim » Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:10 am
Look to be good prices too.
... and more expensive than PBK and probably most other OS suppliers.silentbutdeadly wrote:It's more about ignorance than anything else...Pushy's are cool.
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Re: Front Pannier Racks
Postby Espresso_ » Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:53 am
I've placed my order with PBK as advised - hoping it arrives swiftly!
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Re: Front Pannier Racks
Postby Wingnut » Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:21 am
I might try them if I have to replace one of my Ortlieb pannier bags some time in the future...and if they have the stock?alfine8 wrote:Is there any reason why people don't use Pushy's to buy their Ortleibs.
With regard to seat bags and handlebar bags I won't use Ortlieb again, there are so many other brands that make more versatile versions...
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Re: Front Pannier Racks
Postby Espresso_ » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:52 pm
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Postby Espresso_ » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:00 pm
The rack is super solid and fits perfectly using the supplied spacers etc.
Thanks for all the help on this thread.
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Postby Espresso_ » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:25 pm
No issue mounting them alone (ie the disc brakes were not a problem, just needed to use some of the included spacers) but the mudguards would only mount by not using the SKS quick-release thingy on one of the mudguard stays to get them to mount on top of the rack. As you can see, due to the angles involved I've mounted the rack and the mudguards on the same lower eyelet - the upper eyelet is not used at all.
I've since removed the rack for general city riding, and the mudguards just mount up fine.
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Re: Front Pannier Racks
Postby il padrone » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:36 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Front Pannier Racks
Postby Espresso_ » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:30 pm
I'm no weight weenie but the rack alone is 500g - that's not insignificant. Having said that, I can see the appeal of leaving it on.il padrone wrote:My racks stay on the bike, full-time. They really weigh so little it's no bother, and I've never had any damage to them.
It's mostly for aesthetics that I've removed it.
Doesn't she look pretty?
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Re: Front Pannier Racks
Postby Leaf T » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:09 pm
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Postby Espresso_ » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:12 pm
These mudguards are SKS longboards (700c). They are longer (and in my case wider) than Chromoplastics, which I've also had on other bikes. They've even longer still when fitted over my 650b tyres; a little too long in fact. I'm planning to switch out the long front flap for a shorter item.Andy wrote:Hey nice bike! Is that the new version of SKS chromoplastics? I saw them on Jenson today while looking into Surly chainrings. At first I thought they looked pretty ugly but seeing them mounted I really like them. They must provide a lot of protection to the drivetrain.
Most of the look of mudguards is the way they are fitted. I'm anal about the closeness to the tyre and even distance to the tyre throughout. I fit mudguards myself, despite how fiddly a job it is, because I don't trust people "on the clock" to do as good a job.
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Re: Front Pannier Racks
Postby il padrone » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:52 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Postby Espresso_ » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:59 pm
Scratched paint, sheet of wire jammed between chain stay and crank. Not pleasant.
The ultra low flap (basically a scoop) is probably not helping.
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Re: Front Pannier Racks
Postby il padrone » Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:50 pm
Yep, not really going to help.Espresso_ wrote:No doubt - I experienced as much on one of the roads you sent me down! Pain in the ass, ended up picking up a sheet of wire fence left by 4WDers hiding under a few cms of muddy water.
Scratched paint, sheet of wire jammed between chain stay and crank. Not pleasant.
The ultra low flap (basically a scoop) is probably not helping.
If you go really bush on dirt roads and tracks you can get this sort of thing (red clay outback tracks.... like glue)
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Re: Front Pannier Racks
Postby TouringPhil » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:42 pm
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Postby Espresso_ » Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:53 pm
After all this, more bad news. The bags arrived defective, which isn't what I've been led to believe is normal for Ortlieb given the positive reviews here and elsewhere. The seams were not taped fully shut as you can see in the image below (that's my thumb poking through).Espresso_ wrote:Just to round this out, these arrived on the 24th, so roughly 10 days after ordering. Not bad.
Returning the bags to PBK was not straightforward. The returns process was normal enough, and I received the refund in a couple of weeks. However, they initially refused to pay more than 15% of the cost of the item towards the return shipping to the UK (roughly $20). If you've ever done this, you'll know shipping is not cheap (around $90 for airmail, or $50 for a 3-month seamail wait). [The local Ortlieb dealer would not engage with a sale from a UK-based retailer, fine for anywhere in Aus and Asia though.]
Anyway, after some wrangling they've agreed to pay the full costs of shipping.
Despite the quality issues with the first set, I'm sticking with Ortlieb and getting the Sport Packer Plus versions this time (not the roll-top version) on the basis of advice from Aushiker and others on here.
I might even buy them from Pushy's ...
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