Schwalbe Marathon Deluxe Evo - Has anyone ridden them?
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Schwalbe Marathon Deluxe Evo - Has anyone ridden them?
Postby piston9 » Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:44 am
Not a cheap tyre, but -
- I currently ride gatorskins (25), flatbar road bike, but I take some paths on the way to work.
- I'm getting pinch flats from rocks\branches\etc, usually cornering at 25-30K's. I might be old and fat but I'm not too slow
- at 100PSI, my ride is HARD. And i'm old and soft. I'm 188CM weigh 110Kg's, so at 80PSi they are comfy but hit the rims.
- Before you ask, when I started I was over 125Kg's, so the cycling makes a difference - take that to your friends and tell them to get on their bikes
- Commute is 35k's one way. I carry two spares. I got two flats this morning and was less then impressed, and walked the last 500m to work in cycling shoes.
So, I want larger tyres - my bike will easily take 35's (Merida T5), so thinking between 28-35m and came across these.
Anyone tried them? They seem a new line with no reviews at all . Otherwise I guess it's the 28 Gatorskins...
Schwalbe Marathon Deluxe Evo Double Defense Road Tyre
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Re: Schwalbe Marathon Deluxe Evo - Has anyone ridden them?
Postby find_bruce » Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:18 pm
Seems like they are new to the market. Couple of links for people interested - Schwalbe site, wiggle at A$65.20 bike24 at €25,97 (A37.31), so a bit more expensive than the Schwalbe Marathon plus
Significantly lighter than the marathon plus though - to pick the same size, 37-622, marathon plus is 900g, marathon deluxe is 545g. Still not lightweight but a significant improvement. If they are as durable as the marathon plus then that will be brilliant.
I say you should buy a pair ... and report back to us
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Re: Schwalbe Marathon Deluxe Evo - Has anyone ridden them?
Postby queequeg » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:29 pm
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Re: Schwalbe Marathon Deluxe Evo - Has anyone ridden them?
Postby piston9 » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:31 pm
Ha, volunteered in true Aussie stylefind_bruce wrote: I say you should buy a pair ... and report back to us
I'll give it a day first to see if anyone else has feedback, then I might go for it. There is a couple hundred grams of rotating mass I will feel, but same as with a headwind, I will just tell myself 'thats more calories burnt!'
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Re: Schwalbe Marathon Deluxe Evo - Has anyone ridden them?
Postby warthog1 » Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:47 pm
It will be interesting to see how you find them anyway.
I love tyre threads btw good to see another one started, well done
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Re: Schwalbe Marathon Deluxe Evo - Has anyone ridden them?
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Re: Schwalbe Marathon Deluxe Evo - Has anyone ridden them?
Postby piston9 » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:15 pm
- The are directional. And I put both on the wrong way. Which leads to point 2.
- Their width makes them a pain to fit on my rims - I have a set of fulcrum racing comp CX rims. Once on they are fine and don't look too wide, but they just didn't want to go on nicely . Also being foldable tyres they didn't play nice.
- You can definitely feel the difference between the tread section and the sidewall - there is an obvious thickness change which should make wear and protection nice. I am guessing the softer sidewall will make a softer ride, though we will see....
And now the big one
- Their profile is higher than the old tyres - I wasn't expecting as much change. I had to adjust my rear guard and remove my front guard due to clearance issues. No problems with width (I knew they would go), but clearance especially at the front is limited...
I will put 100K's on them and give my impressions after...
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Re: Schwalbe Marathon Deluxe Evo - Has anyone ridden them?
Postby piston9 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:50 am
Summary
Great commuting tyres, the ride is amazing, but you wouldn't want to race them....
Fit
As I mentioned above, first fitting was a real pain. I had to reverse them, second fit was easy. Guess it was just out of the box... Clearance is a little tight at the front - not in width, but height. These tyres have a larger profile (more 'suspension'), which meant I had to remove my front guard.
Ride
Oh that sweet, sweet ride. This is what I paid for. Smooth roads are 'dreamy'. Older roads (with lots of aggregate showing) that used to be uncomfortable on the narrow tyres are now just fine. Bumps that used to be disasterous are now an inconvenience. Bumps that used to be an inconvenience are now just little bumps. For touring or distance commuting this is great.
I ride on some rubbish roads and a bike path or 2, and they make a real difference.
Also speed wise I can feel they are heavier, but I set 3 PR's on strava on the way in this morning, so they are not slow. Actually on some area's they feel faster as they aren't upset by rubbish surfaces, so you keep rolling speed up.
So you ask, what is the downside?
Cornering.
Yep, from 100PSI slicks to 80PSI with wider profile and a little tread is massive. I can feel the tread move in tighter corners, and real tight corners I can feel my speed being 'scrubbed'. So you wouldn't want to be racing them - my old tyres felt 'positive' when I turned - the bike followed my pure thought.... Now I have to tip in earlier and more aggressive to maintain the same cornering, and can feel the tread moving under me.
Also, if you have ever driven a car with wider tyres you will be used to tramlining - the feeling the tyres are following road contours and lines. There is a little of that on these on profiled roads - I felt I was fighting the road profile a little more, but the effect was limited - just a little disconcerting when I first went out!
Conclusion
So, the question is not 'what is the best tyres', but 'what is the best tyres for .....'. What are you using them for? In this case, for commuting over an hour each way, they add to the comfort and make the ride that much more enjoyable. I lose a little speed in corners, but I make some on rougher surfaces, so the balance is pretty even. Personally, a good choice so far. Though at what amounts to $65 a tyre, an expensive one! (not to mention I had to buy new tubes and spares as well because of the width...)
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Re: Schwalbe Marathon Deluxe Evo - Has anyone ridden them?
Postby find_bruce » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:57 pm
When I have used up my current spares of marathon pluses, I might try one on the front.
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Re: Schwalbe Marathon Deluxe Evo - Has anyone ridden them?
Postby piston9 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:04 pm
So conclusion remains - for a more comfortable commuter tyre, these have been gold. They are probably 1.5k's an hour slower on my average, i'm only now getting my average speeds back to where they were, which is purely fitness, and all good
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Re: Schwalbe Marathon Deluxe Evo - Has anyone ridden them?
Postby jemo27 » Sun May 10, 2015 3:43 pm
I'm trying to find a pair again but the bicycle store I went to is waiting for an order to come in and I tried wiggle and bike24 both are out of stock in my size of 700x35.
Anyone got suggestions of where I can find a pair or an alternative set of tyres
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Re: Schwalbe Marathon Deluxe Evo - Has anyone ridden them?
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Re: Schwalbe Marathon Deluxe Evo - Has anyone ridden them?
Postby find_bruce » Wed May 13, 2015 9:24 am
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Re: Schwalbe Marathon Deluxe Evo - Has anyone ridden them?
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Re: Schwalbe Marathon Deluxe Evo - Has anyone ridden them?
Postby travellingminds » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:36 am
So yes, not a question of which is the best tyre, but which is the best tyre for what? For commuting these are awesome.
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