The new and interesting touring gear thread...

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Postby il padrone » Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:48 pm

Aushiker wrote:
Wingnut wrote:But why?

Do you really need it for touring to bikepacking?
That was my first thought too. Just another electronic piece that needs charging, another piece of technology that could cause problems and maybe not be simply doubt with out on the road.

Yesterday I was riding into Coolgardie; chain needed lubing. Easily done on the side of the road. Now if this wireless shifting died on me, maybe a seriously bigger problem. Not much help out here.
Shifting fast and accurate ???

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Re: The new and interesting gear thread...

Postby Leaf T » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:33 pm

I've not seen a product like this before. Seems to be an epoxy impregnated tape? I can imagine it being quite handy for racks or tent poles.

https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-buys ... 0-04_10-17

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Re: The new and interesting gear thread...

Postby }SkOrPn--7 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:11 pm

Leaf T wrote:I've not seen a product like this before. Seems to be an epoxy impregnated tape? I can imagine it being quite handy for racks or tent poles.

https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-buys ... 0-04_10-17

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Wonder how heavy that is would be good for the leading edge of my EPO RC plane wings to toughen up. Little filling and sanding and they would be dent proof.

Thanks for that LT

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Re: The new and interesting gear thread...

Postby RonK » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:23 am

RonK wrote:I think I'll get me one of these for my Fargo - a bell that rings itself. TIMBER Mountain Bike Bell: The Polite Way to Pass
So I did order one and it arrived this morning.

And I must say it has a very nice ring to it. :)
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Re: The new and interesting gear thread...

Postby avolve » Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:46 pm

RonK wrote:
RonK wrote:I think I'll get me one of these for my Fargo - a bell that rings itself. TIMBER Mountain Bike Bell: The Polite Way to Pass
So I did order one and it arrived this morning.

And I must say it has a very nice ring to it. :)
Who'd you order it through?

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Postby RonK » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:38 pm

avolve wrote:
RonK wrote:
RonK wrote:I think I'll get me one of these for my Fargo - a bell that rings itself. TIMBER Mountain Bike Bell: The Polite Way to Pass
So I did order one and it arrived this morning.

And I must say it has a very nice ring to it. :)
Who'd you order it through?
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Re: The new and interesting gear thread...

Postby Leaf T » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:48 pm

23 quid for a bell? I'd need bats in the belfry to spend that much.

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Postby RonK » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:22 pm

Leaf T wrote:23 quid for a bell? I'd need bats in the belfry to spend that much.
That's less than my Spur Cycle bells.

It's a unique design - you can't get one like it anywhere else (until the cheap Chinese knockoffs appear).

But I suppose you could go out the back and snatch the bell off Daisy's neck.

A nice Condamine Bullfrog will cost an arm and leg these days.
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Re: The new and interesting gear thread...

Postby RonK » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:28 pm

RonK wrote:
RonK wrote:I think I'll get me one of these for my Fargo - a bell that rings itself. TIMBER Mountain Bike Bell: The Polite Way to Pass
So I did order one and it arrived this morning.

And I must say it has a very nice ring to it. :)
I've done a few rides now with this hell on the bike.

As expected, on the road it doesn't ring much unless I hit a bump. When it does the tone is quite pleasant and pedestrians on the footpath look as round so it is obviously noticeable.

I tested it on the chromatic scale and it rings in the key of G, compared to the Spurcycle bell which rings in A.
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Re: The new and interesting gear thread...

Postby }SkOrPn--7 » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:26 am

New 14 speed IGH might interest someone and if it turns out to be good might inspire Rohloff to make improvements to there's.

http://www.kindernay.com/

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Re: The new and interesting gear thread...

Postby ironhanglider » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:08 pm

RonK wrote:
RonK wrote:
RonK wrote:I think I'll get me one of these for my Fargo - a bell that rings itself. TIMBER Mountain Bike Bell: The Polite Way to Pass
So I did order one and it arrived this morning.

And I must say it has a very nice ring to it. :)
I've done a few rides now with this hell on the bike.

As expected, on the road it doesn't ring much unless I hit a bump. When it does the tone is quite pleasant and pedestrians on the footpath look as round so it is obviously noticeable.

I tested it on the chromatic scale and it rings in the key of G, compared to the Spurcycle bell which rings in A.
Seems like you don't like it much!

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Postby RonK » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:05 pm

ironhanglider wrote:Seems like you don't like it much!
Not at all. I like it a lot. It's a hell of a bell - one of the nicest I've ever owned.
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Re: The new and interesting gear thread...

Postby RonK » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:01 am

Returning to the item with which I kicked off this thread oh so many posts ago - Helinox recently sent me an email promoting their new Chair Two + Rocker.
Hehe - I wonder if they are trying to tell me something... :lol:
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Re: The new and interesting gear thread...

Postby Leaf T » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:19 pm

}SkOrPn--7 wrote:New 14 speed IGH might interest someone and if it turns out to be good might inspire Rohloff to make improvements to there's.

http://www.kindernay.com/

Ricky
That hub looks like a serious contender for Rohloff fans. Very little weight difference though once you add it all up. I like the fact the shifters can be mounted on drop bars. And being able to remove the gear mech and use it on other bikes is a great idea. Then there's the cost which is around $2400AUS. Any idea how much a pinion system costs these days?

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Postby }SkOrPn--7 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:53 pm

Leaf T wrote:
}SkOrPn--7 wrote:New 14 speed IGH might interest someone and if it turns out to be good might inspire Rohloff to make improvements to there's.

http://www.kindernay.com/

Ricky
That hub looks like a serious contender for Rohloff fans. Very little weight difference though once you add it all up. I like the fact the shifters can be mounted on drop bars. And being able to remove the gear mech and use it on other bikes is a great idea. Then there's the cost which is around $2400AUS. Any idea how much a pinion system costs these days?
LT I know very little about it and have done very little in the way of research much past posting that link. Just reading it has a little larger GI range but in my opinion still not low enough for my use. That did spark my interest the fact that you can buy a hub shell and lace up different rim combos then just slip the hub into each new rim build and off you go that for me was real innovation allowing use across many bikes. I think they said the shifters are hydraulic now I don't know enough about that to say either way if that is good or bad I know I prefer cables on my brakes just for simplistic reasons but the newer cable hydraulic combo has my attention with brakes.

The pinion is around $1800 isn't it I'm assuming that is AUD but once again that system isn't something I have delved into because I think the GI isn't for me. I reckon this Kindernay hub has some real positives going for it but I would like to see some more technical data on what it can and can't do as far as limitations with sprockets and chainrings before you break it.

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Re: The new and interesting gear thread...

Postby Leaf T » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:01 pm

They mention torque in the FAQ..

"How much torque?

The hub is designed to withstand MTB use. As different riders use their equipment in different ways the load put into such systems varies considerably. XIV is designed for a nominal torque of 100Nm on the hub and a chain tension of 3000N, though the maximum peak torque capacity is significantly higher. Due to the large span of use and loading, it is impossible to give direct calculation of crank/hub sprocket ratios or minimum hub sprocket, but a good practice is to follow the indication below:

The minimum sprocket that the hub can handle is 13T, however riders expecting to use the hub up to its upper torque capacity should use larger sprockets, preferable 15T or larger to avoid overload and premature wear both on the hub and crank bearings and the drive line itself. The crank/hub sprocket ratio should be chosen in the range of 1.9 to 3.0. "

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Postby Calvin27 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:01 pm

http://www.bikerumor.com/2016/11/03/zip ... ro-wheels/

Solves the crosswind and front aero trade off to some extent. Seems like a cool concept to me. Some nice computational fluid dynamics images would have been the icing on the cake.
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Re: The new and interesting gear thread...

Postby RonK » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:27 pm

Aero wheels - just the thing I DON'T need on my touring bike.
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Postby eldavo » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:46 pm

The thread may have been seen as latest topics, while not subscribed to the touring subforum.
I thought it was interesting, but wondered if they would be supporting Sea Shepherd or such eco charity given the bio-mimic was patent license free.

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Re: The new and interesting gear thread...

Postby Calvin27 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:50 pm

RonK wrote:Aero wheels - just the thing I DON'T need on my touring bike.
My bad haha.
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Re: The new and interesting gear thread...

Postby Aushiker » Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:37 am

I use a Light My Fire mini but this looks like an interesting alternative, the Vargo Ultimate Fire Starter that is. Massdrop have a drop going with the price now at US$25.99 delivered.

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Re: The new and interesting gear thread...

Postby baabaa » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:12 am

Finally, no reservoir, adjustable and not self adjusting hydro; looks the goods to me as I do like to dial in my brakes in regarding to on road and off road and then if wet and muddy or just dusty or sandy (also keen on cable for the no fuss when levers are pranged and less parts to lug about)
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Re: The new and interesting gear thread...

Postby il padrone » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:21 pm

Aushiker wrote:I use a Light My Fire mini but this looks like an interesting alternative, the Vargo Ultimate Fire Starter that is. Massdrop have a drop going with the price now at US$25.99 delivered.

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Fire-starters are available all over the shop - from $2.99 to $35 depending on your preferred supplier
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Re: The new and interesting gear thread...

Postby il padrone » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:24 pm

Leaf T wrote:
}SkOrPn--7 wrote:New 14 speed IGH might interest someone and if it turns out to be good might inspire Rohloff to make improvements to there's.

http://www.kindernay.com/

Ricky
That hub looks like a serious contender for Rohloff fans. Very little weight difference though once you add it all up. I like the fact the shifters can be mounted on drop bars. And being able to remove the gear mech and use it on other bikes is a great idea. Then there's the cost which is around $2400AUS. Any idea how much a pinion system costs these days?
Only available for 10mm and 12mm thru-axle systems.

Then there is the (*cough*) rather large price barrier :roll: :|
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Re: The new and interesting gear thread...

Postby RonK » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:40 pm

baabaa wrote:Finally, no reservoir, adjustable and not self adjusting hydro; looks the goods to me as I do like to dial in my brakes in regarding to on road and off road and then if wet and muddy or just dusty or sandy (also keen on cable for the no fuss when levers are pranged and less parts to lug about)

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Nothing new about these - they are simply a rebranding of the Juin Tech R1 brakes I posted about here more than a year ago.
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