Bike weight in the steel realm.
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Bike weight in the steel realm.
Postby brauluver » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:17 pm
I have recently transferred all my bits to the bennett mystery tange frame, that I suspect may be a Cro Mo triangle only, and It weighs in at a modest 10 kg or 22lb.I consider this to be light and takes my total ride weight up to 80 kg.
In this post on bike forum http://www.bikeforums.net/showpost.php? ... stcount=21 is a list of late 80's bike weights as a comparo.
Weights of 1988 and 1989 Road Bikes:
"High End" Road Bikes"
Bianchi Giro $1,250 - Columbus SLX/SPX - weight: 22 pounds
Mercian King of America $1,600 - Reynolds 531 - weight: 21 pounds
Cinelli Athena $1,500 - Columbus Cromor - weight: 22.5 pounds
Centurion Prestige $1,000 - Tange Prestige - weight: 21 pounds
Specialized Allez Epic $1,800 - Carbon Fiber - weight: 20.9 pounds
Tesch 101 $1,900 - True Temper RC - weight: 21.5 pounds
In 1989 and 1988, the "expensive" bikes were coming in with weights of 21 to 22 pounds, using "high end" components, light wheels and tires.
"Mid-Priced Road Bikes"
Panasonic DX-6000 $730 - Tange #1 - weight 21.5 pounds
Terry Chrom $750 - Tange #1 - weight 22.5 pounds
Centurion Ironman Master $750 - Tange #1 - weight 22.5 pounds
All seem to be in the 9/10 kg range.
So who here has any weights recorded for comparo, either bare frame or complete road going for interests sake?
All those bikes in the Repco thread would be an interesting comparo on their own.
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Postby crog » Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:35 pm
- full ultegra 9 speed grouppo,
- 36 hole Mavic Open Pro Rims, Ultegra Hubs & GP4000s tyres
- Cinelli bar, stem
- Ultegra pedals
- Miche Post and brooks B17 saddle
- size is 56cm
Cuuld likely get it lighter if I went lighter rims and seat but suits me as i weigh wrong side of 100k so a few grams nt an issue
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Postby sittingbison » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:52 pm
rattlesnake, my Reynolds 708 kenevans weighs 9.8kg
59cm frame
Centaur gruppo
Ksyrium Elite wheelset
Vittoria Open Corsa Pro tyres
SI Flyte saddle
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Bike weight in the steel realm.
Postby Blockchain » Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:43 pm
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Postby crog » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:53 pm
Lets all bankrumpt ourselves for the best bike to gain a weight advantage whilst pi5s and pizza on friday is the norm
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Re: Bike weight in the steel realm.
Postby singlespeedscott » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:53 pm
Pictures pleaseBlockchain wrote:1950 Gana team bike Paris to R gears all steel except rims 18.4 lb.
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Postby jonbays » Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:25 pm
All of these are real weights of the complete bikes with pretty much complete period components including pedals clips and straps etc. If you were to say substitute a complete modern say 105 groupset you could probably trim up to a kilo of these weights.
I ride the old steel frame bikes because I like them and grew up with them ( still only ride friction shifters ) and the quality of the road feel of steel frame is enjoyable. Steel frames also do last really well with a life almost as long as the rider will need.
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Postby crog » Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:20 pm
spoiltI have a couiple of Peugeot Avoriaz's with Carbolite plus tubing that come in at 10.4 and 10.5 KG, A Carlton Corsair in Reynolds 501 at 12.1 KG, A Raleigh Pro race in 501 at 11.4KG, A Motobecane in Vitus 888 at 10.9KG, A peugeot SV10 with Super Vitus 980 at 9.8KG and a Raleigh Grand prix with 1020 tubing at 12.5kg.
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Re: Bike weight in the steel realm.
Postby brauluver » Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:56 pm
A big Plus 2 to that!singlespeedscott wrote:Pictures pleaseBlockchain wrote:1950 Gana team bike Paris to R gears all steel except rims 18.4 lb.
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Postby xavdav » Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:12 pm
It is a 57cm x 57 cm with a current campa veloce group set.
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Postby familyguy » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:35 am
Tange Infinity bare frame with forks and headset: 2.9kg (on the bathroom scales, so give or take 100g).
This link may be relevant (Google translated link). Original Japanese page here.
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Postby twizzle » Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:06 pm
No argument there.crog wrote:Probaly an emotive topic but hell lets rock the boat why buy a 10K carbon bike for sake of 500 ~ 1000 grams. we could all probably afford to loose this weight(some like me alot more).
Lets all bankrumpt ourselves for the best bike to gain a weight advantage whilst pi5s and pizza on friday is the norm
I never understand when people choose the bike with the carbon frame over the one with the decent groupset and wheels.
...real cyclists don't have squeaky chains...
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Postby brauluver » Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:14 pm
it is isn't it?Lark2004 wrote:amazing all this really.....isn't it?
There is a MASSIVE difference in component specs here, many not retro mind you, and yet the weight difference is so minimal that a half bottle of water can tip the scales totally!
i'm glad i asked the question now,as I've always been curious as to how a good ol steely stacks up by todays ridiculous weeny standards.
10kg and under has always felt like a lightweight bike to me.
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Postby silverlight » Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:38 pm
Weight is 18.4 lb this is a 22 1/2 x 23 inch frame too.
It is in original race worthy condition only bar tape and tyres renewed
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