biker jk wrote:
You might possess a thick skull as a defence against injury.
I prob do but hasn't got through the styrofoam on my helmet yet.
Postby warthog1 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:29 am
biker jk wrote:
You might possess a thick skull as a defence against injury.
Postby fat and old » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:42 am
How do you know?warthog1 wrote:biker jk wrote:
You might possess a thick skull as a defence against injury.
I prob do but hasn't got through the styrofoam on my helmet yet.
Postby warthog1 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:19 pm
Postby march83 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:07 pm
Postby Hergest » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:27 pm
Juts because you haven't had a problem doesn't mean others haven't had severely damaged eyes or fallen off due to the surprise of a bird coming out of the blue and hit them and hurt themselves badly. Don't be so arrogant.warthog1 wrote:
Sure let's run with that analogy,
When the magpie is equipped with a fast acting neurotoxin that paralyses the muscles of respiration I'll commence to show some concern.
Until then it remains a 300 gm feathery fella defending it's nest that at worst delivers a light tap. I'll drop my head and pedal like I have for the last 20 odd years and hundreds strikes on my helmet and continue on unconcerned.
I'm yet to have an eye plucked out or even suffer a slight scratch.
Postby warthog1 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:23 pm
So how many cyclists do you know with "severely damaged eyes"?Hergest wrote: Juts because you haven't had a problem doesn't mean others haven't had severely damaged eyes
Yes, that is the point.Hergest wrote: or fallen off due to the surprise of a bird coming out of the blue and hit them and hurt themselves badly. Don't be so arrogant.
Postby Philistine » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:06 pm
Postby kb » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:14 pm
Don't get too cocky . I've been hit quite hard from behind descending at 50kph (Don Rd down into Healesville)march83 wrote: In the wind today I passed a couple of blokes riding into the wind getting hammered by a maggie and they just had nowhere to run to. I was flying past in the opposite direction at 50km/h++ so the magpie never had a chance to catch me.
Postby g-boaf » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:29 pm
He's just taking over the devils advocate role from another forum user who previously used to do this kind of stuff.Hergest wrote:Juts because you haven't had a problem doesn't mean others haven't had severely damaged eyes or fallen off due to the surprise of a bird coming out of the blue and hit them and hurt themselves badly. Don't be so arrogant.warthog1 wrote:
Sure let's run with that analogy,
When the magpie is equipped with a fast acting neurotoxin that paralyses the muscles of respiration I'll commence to show some concern.
Until then it remains a 300 gm feathery fella defending it's nest that at worst delivers a light tap. I'll drop my head and pedal like I have for the last 20 odd years and hundreds strikes on my helmet and continue on unconcerned.
I'm yet to have an eye plucked out or even suffer a slight scratch.
Postby warthog1 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:39 pm
Can you still see?g-boaf wrote:He's just taking over the devils advocate role from another forum user who previously used to do this kind of stuff.Hergest wrote:Juts because you haven't had a problem doesn't mean others haven't had severely damaged eyes or fallen off due to the surprise of a bird coming out of the blue and hit them and hurt themselves badly. Don't be so arrogant.warthog1 wrote:
Sure let's run with that analogy,
When the magpie is equipped with a fast acting neurotoxin that paralyses the muscles of respiration I'll commence to show some concern.
Until then it remains a 300 gm feathery fella defending it's nest that at worst delivers a light tap. I'll drop my head and pedal like I have for the last 20 odd years and hundreds strikes on my helmet and continue on unconcerned.
I'm yet to have an eye plucked out or even suffer a slight scratch.
I reckon we need to give him the Cawdor Rd magpie, or an equivalent of the now deceased (shot dead IIRC) Mcgraths Hill magpie. That last one was totally fearless. It would fly at people, rather than chase.
Not so sure what dropping your head and pedalling would do against it... and if you stop, the damn thing would still fly up at you head on.
Postby g-boaf » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:10 pm
Postby warthog1 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:14 pm
His name wasn't Maurice was it?g-boaf wrote:
I reckon we need to give him the Cawdor Rd magpie, or an equivalent of the now deceased (shot dead IIRC) Mcgraths Hill magpie. That last one was totally fearless. It would fly at people, rather than chase.
Not so sure what dropping your head and pedalling would do against it... and if you stop, the damn thing would still fly up at you head on.
Postby warthog1 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:21 pm
g-boaf wrote:You didn't answer the question. You sidestepped it like a politician does.
Postby Hergest » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:07 am
Shoot this girl an email to tell her that all she had to do was keep her head down and pedal.warthog1 wrote:So how many cyclists do you know with "severely damaged eyes"?Hergest wrote: Juts because you haven't had a problem doesn't mean others haven't had severely damaged eyes
You might find one who sat up and copped one from the side. Never met anyone with more than a scratch if that.
Yes, that is the point.Hergest wrote: or fallen off due to the surprise of a bird coming out of the blue and hit them and hurt themselves badly. Don't be so arrogant.
The only realistic way to suffer serious injury is because you panicked.
It simply doesn't warrant it.
Take it as arrogant if you want. It is a simple observation that has been pointed out by others also
Postby warthog1 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:08 am
So Hergest you've trawled the internet for evidence of the lethal threat the demon magpies present and this is the evidence you reveal.Hergest wrote:
Shoot this girl an email to tell her that all she had to do was keep her head down and pedal.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-13/m ... ye/7929550
How about this poor lad who ran into the way of a car. I suppose he was soft eh?
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/quee ... 909acdc956
You might notice if you read the above article that a researcher from Griffith University says that "at least one eye is lost every year" Perhaps you should get the details of those people from him so you could contact them to tell them they should have just kept their heads down like you do because hey, it's never happened to you so surely couldn't happen to anyone else.
Postby Hergest » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:32 pm
Nope, first couple of hits on the first search page . I'm sure I could have found countless more but it was a response to your comment which I quote...warthog1 wrote:So Hergest you've trawled the internet for evidence of the lethal threat the demon magpies present and this is the evidence you reveal.Hergest wrote:
Shoot this girl an email to tell her that all she had to do was keep her head down and pedal.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-13/m ... ye/7929550
How about this poor lad who ran into the way of a car. I suppose he was soft eh?
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/quee ... 909acdc956
You might notice if you read the above article that a researcher from Griffith University says that "at least one eye is lost every year" Perhaps you should get the details of those people from him so you could contact them to tell them they should have just kept their heads down like you do because hey, it's never happened to you so surely couldn't happen to anyone else.
A 7 year old girl was pecked in the eye and a 12 year old boy panicked and ran into the path of a car?
Do you think the result would have been better if she kept her head down and kept on pedaling?
I do.
Matter of conjecture but I'd hazard a guess that those injured riding a bicycle didn't do just that
I've never considered myself particularly brave but I guess it's all relative depending on the company you keep.
Postby Warin » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:46 pm
I had a helmet with a number of holes in it from one magpie. I now have a helmet with a number of long cable ties applied to it. One of the cable ties came off the other day .. magpie whacked me there ... I applied 3 more cable ties to it. Magpies are dangerous. Personal experience, nothing more than peddling past.warthog1 wrote:Matter of conjecture but I'd hazard a guess that those injured riding a bicycle didn't do just that
Postby cyclotaur » Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:49 pm
Postby warthog1 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:07 pm
A 7 year old girl.Hergest wrote:
Nope, first couple of hits on the first search page . I'm sure I could have found countless more but it was a response to your comment which I quote...
You might find one who sat up and copped one from the side. Never met anyone with more than a scratch if that....
I hardly find blindness and death copping one from the side or more than a scratch. Your arrogance that everyone should do as you do as there's no problem remains to the fore.
Works for me and that is without wearing eye protection. I can't see how the hell any magpie is going to inflict any kind of eye damage if you add that and don't crash by panicking.If it flies at me I can see it coming and it flies into my helmet breaking its' neck not mine.
If it comes from behind it has to get my face which is below the level of my shoulders so it has to bank ridiculously sharply like some kind of feathered red baron (without the machine guns).
Postby warthog1 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:19 pm
As had I. A butcher bird on cureton ave mildura. Plenty of indentations in the styrene on the back of my helmet.Warin wrote:I had a helmet with a number of holes in it from one magpie. I now have a helmet with a number of long cable ties applied to it. One of the cable ties came off the other day .. magpie whacked me there ... I applied 3 more cable ties to it. Magpies are dangerous. Personal experience, nothing more than peddling past.warthog1 wrote:Matter of conjecture but I'd hazard a guess that those injured riding a bicycle didn't do just that
Postby biker jk » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:44 pm
So helmets do work to keep cyclists safe after all.warthog1 wrote:As had I. A butcher bird on cureton ave mildura. Plenty of indentations in the styrene on the back of my helmet.Warin wrote:I had a helmet with a number of holes in it from one magpie. I now have a helmet with a number of long cable ties applied to it. One of the cable ties came off the other day .. magpie whacked me there ... I applied 3 more cable ties to it. Magpies are dangerous. Personal experience, nothing more than peddling past.warthog1 wrote:Matter of conjecture but I'd hazard a guess that those injured riding a bicycle didn't do just that
Injury to me or the multiple other cyclists in the local club? Zero.
Postby warthog1 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:30 pm
Indeed they dobiker jk wrote:
So helmets do work to keep cyclists safe after all.
Postby Philistine » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:36 pm
Nobody seems to be hanging by the thumbs waiting for the rest of my story but I'll post it anyway.Philistine wrote:He is plying his trade just about a kilometre from my front door, and so I can pop out tomorrow morning to deliver his tribute without stuffing up my ride.
Postby Marx » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:55 pm
Postby g-boaf » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:26 pm
That one at Greystanes is going after everyone, not just riders but people walking as well. Had a walker warn me about it. Easy diversion to Merrylands Rd that avoids it completely.Hergest wrote:The one at the end of Powerhouse Road in Liverpool is having exploratory swoops as is the one on Greystanes Aquaduct.
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