Which Bike for Around the Bay
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Which Bike for Around the Bay
Postby Newcastle Dave » Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:47 am
I have 2 bikes
1) Cell Omeo 2
2) Merida Cyclocross 4
I was planning to bring the Cell down to Melbourne however last week I rode Newcastle - Dungog return (170 km) on the Merida. The reason I chose the merida for that ride was that part of the route is over very rough bitumen, you know the kind where none of the original road surface is visible between the patches. They ride organisers actually say "just think of it like the cobbles on Paris - Roubaix". I am currently running 28mm Gatorskins on the Merida
Now as I neared the end I was thinking, "actually this bike is more comfortable and relaxed, maybe I will take it to Melbourne"
Am I mad taking a heavier cyclocross bike on what I believe is a smooth tarmac 250 km ride (over the lighter aero carbon Omeo) ?
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Re: Which Bike for Around the Bay
Postby rooftop » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:17 pm
And on a 250km ride comfort sometimes trumps speed
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Re: Which Bike for Around the Bay
Postby Hildalgo » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:25 am
You'll have a blast
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Re: Which Bike for Around the Bay
Postby macca33 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:33 am
cheers
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Re: Which Bike for Around the Bay
Postby human909 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:32 pm
Weight is basically negligible. Around the bay is flat. If your cyclocross tyres aren't slick that will make more of a difference. If you have slick tyres on your cyclocross I'd pick the bike that is more comfortable.Newcastle Dave wrote:Am I mad taking a heavier cyclocross bike on what I believe is a smooth tarmac 250 km ride (over the lighter aero carbon Omeo) ?
Some people do around the bay on mountain bikes, touring bikes and various city bikes. I did it on a flat bar bike the one and only time I did it.
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Re: Which Bike for Around the Bay
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Re: Which Bike for Around the Bay
Postby fat and old » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:41 pm
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Re: Which Bike for Around the Bay
Postby Arbuckle23 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:57 pm
Better not. I don't do rainP!N20 wrote:Whichever one has disc brakes, coz, y'know, it might rain.
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Re: Which Bike for Around the Bay
Postby Newcastle Dave » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:38 pm
Well looks like its the Merida Cross bike (with discs) thenP!N20 wrote:Whichever one has disc brakes, coz, y'know, it might rain.
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Re: Which Bike for Around the Bay
Postby Duck! » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:17 pm
October is the most volatile month of the year for Melbourne's weather, so expect anything.
Above all, pick the bike you're most comfortable on for that long.
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Re: Which Bike for Around the Bay
Postby g-boaf » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:47 pm
Around the Bay is not going to be on cobblestones and treacherous rough surfaces, so you should be fine.
I rode a few weeks ago 154km and nearly 3000m elevation in pouring rain and temperatures recorded at 2ºC, though I saw cars with snow on top of them coming towards me. I had no disc brakes, and I had perfectly fine braking on those big descents in the rain.Newcastle Dave wrote:Well looks like its the Merida Cross bike (with discs) then
You'll be fine on the Cell. The other guy was being sarcastic.
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Re: Which Bike for Around the Bay
Postby g-boaf » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:12 pm
I've ridden in 45-65kmh conditions that were pretty mad, especially at 60km/h, and that wasn't with an aero bike or deep carbon wheels. Gusts at 80+ is insane.
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Re: Which Bike for Around the Bay
Postby madmacca » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:30 pm
Or just swap the wheelsets (or the tyres) for that ride. (If they fit)human909 wrote:Weight is basically negligible. Around the bay is flat. If your cyclocross tyres aren't slick that will make more of a difference. If you have slick tyres on your cyclocross I'd pick the bike that is more comfortable.Newcastle Dave wrote:Am I mad taking a heavier cyclocross bike on what I believe is a smooth tarmac 250 km ride (over the lighter aero carbon Omeo) ?
Some people do around the bay on mountain bikes, touring bikes and various city bikes. I did it on a flat bar bike the one and only time I did it.
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Re: Which Bike for Around the Bay
Postby uart » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:44 pm
Newcastle Dave wrote: I was planning to bring the Cell down to Melbourne however last week I rode Newcastle - Dungog return (170 km) on the Merida. The reason I chose the merida for that ride was that part of the route is over very rough bitumen, you know the kind where none of the original road surface is visible between the patches.
Ay, I know the road well and I used to cycle it quite often in my younger days. No doubt you took the Alison Rd on the eastern side of the Williams on at least one leg of the trip. A very scenic route, and very little traffic, but that road was always a little rough. TBH the google map image looks a lot better now than when I used to ride it.
Take whatever bike that you feel the most comfortable in the saddle on, but if you've got the original (kinda knobbly) tyres on that cross bike then swap out the tyres (or wheels) as madmacca says. A typical set of touring tyres will cost you about 15 to 20 watts compared to decent road/race tyres, which is about 500 to 600 kJ of wasted energy over that course. Wow that's over half a Mega Watt second.
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Re: Which Bike for Around the Bay
Postby kb » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:55 pm
A few photos included on the same day out East. The gusts at the bottom of Mt Donna Buang were scary.g-boaf wrote:I've ridden in 45-65kmh conditions that were pretty mad, especially at 60km/h, and that wasn't with an aero bike or deep carbon wheels. Gusts at 80+ is insane.
https://www.strava.com/activities/738797459
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Re: Which Bike for Around the Bay
Postby baabaa » Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:32 pm
OP noted "I am currently running 28mm Gatorskins on the Merida"uart wrote: Take whatever bike that you feel the most comfortable in the saddle on, but if you've got the original (kinda knobbly) tyres on that cross bike then swap out the tyres (or wheels) as madmacca says. A typical set of touring tyres will cost you about 15 to 20 watts compared to decent road/race tyres, which is about 500 to 600 kJ of wasted energy over that course. Wow that's over half a Mega Watt second.
Anyway, cx tyres apart from the tractor size/lugged type would be fine, I have run 35mm CX and then swapped out to 35 mm slicks (and then back and forth) on and off for weeks at a time on my 60 km a day commute to try and see if I could find any difference. It came down to a few minutes per week in on bike time totals. Unless you have really soft rubber which wear out quickly, CX tyres make for a really good winter long days out and road commuter tyre, also having some tread seems to give a bit flat protection with more rubber material buffer between tube and on road glass shards and gunk.
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Re: Which Bike for Around the Bay
Postby uart » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:47 pm
baabaa wrote: OP noted "I am currently running 28mm Gatorskins on the Merida"
Ok thanks baabaa. Either bike should be fine then.
I'm not really familiar with those original cx tyres anyway, but most touring tyres are about 8 to 10 watts (per tyre) more rolling resistance (at about 25 km/h) than even a half decent road/race/training tyre. It's not the sort of difference that will make a big impact on commuting times, but it could add up a bit on such a long ride.
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Re: Which Bike for Around the Bay
Postby baabaa » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:40 pm
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Re: Which Bike for Around the Bay
Postby g-boaf » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:12 pm
That's crazy.kb wrote:A few photos included on the same day out East. The gusts at the bottom of Mt Donna Buang were scary.
https://www.strava.com/activities/738797459
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