If you can't find it... cable bands

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If you can't find it... cable bands

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:34 pm

The title is a bit misleading but I wanted it to flow with my previous threads on Shockstops and chainrings
I could find some but there were difficulties. The NOS rubber ones I bought and installed on the Spearman are showing clear signs of perishing. It seems pointless to go down that path again.
The reproductions I bought from England (from car and motorbike restoration sites) were unusable as they did not stretch to go around the frame tubes.
Time to have some made, at least whilst I still had some I could use as a template.

Lets look at the Brown Bros 1952 catalogue. Where there were no braze ons there were a few options.
Imagecablebands2_zpslu8sv8if by philip.knight, on Flickr]

I like the cable bands as they they also hold the cable off the tube and away from the paint, and don't rip your legs like the metal cable clips did.
The metal clips with the screw and nut came later. So not period appropriate (well I care about such things).

Using the ones I had, I scanned and created the vector artwork. This was then converted to a file the 3D router would use to engrave the shape into a aluminium mould.
A local very committed cyclist, Alistair, happens to have a massive 3D router in a purpose built garage and has years of skill and experience to operate it. He is a very easy person to work with, and is good value for money. He did the Malvern Star engraving for the New Look handlebar grips
The mould was finished to a high shine then bead blasted.

There are two sizes, one for the top tube/down tube, and the smaller one for the chainstay.
Imagecabletbands1_zpsrvwtlwhf by philip.knight, on Flickr

from there is the casting of the urethane. This was tasked to the local company to do urethane casting using professional grade materials, and curing in an oven. They do my Shockstops. Also very friendly.

Imagecabletband3_zpsln1wq24r by philip.knight, on Flickr

To install
Lay the cable in between the two holes, as in the band second from left.
Pull the end with the hole in it through the centre hole (easy to do with a set of long nose pliers, but you can do it with your fingers alone.) as shown in the band third from left.
Wrap the band around the tube and pull the end through the hole. (faster to install than to type this.)

Cable held in place, off the paintwork, and easy to install.
Imageinstalling by philip.knight, on Flickr7.jpg[/img]

Imagefitting instructions by philip.knight, on Flickr

Being urethane they will last a very long time.
I am happy with that.
Let me know if you want any.
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Re: If you can't find it... cable bands

Postby utedeej » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm

Great work, I love your commitment to "getting it right"

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Re: If you can't find it... cable bands

Postby ldrcycles » Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:20 pm

utedeej wrote:Great work, I love your commitment to "getting it right"


+1, lovely result.
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Re: If you can't find it... cable bands

Postby WyvernRH » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:50 pm

Excellent work Philip!
So how are you packaging them? As a set or individually priced? I would be up for a couple of sets and maybe some extra chainstay types if available separately.
Richard

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Re: If you can't find it... cable bands

Postby silentbutdeadly » Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:00 pm

I don't have a frame that needs them....and I still want a set!

The funny thing is that I can see a market for this in modern MTB too for running hydro lines and converting frames to fully enclosed gear cables...
Ours is not to reason why...merely to point and giggle

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Postby old steel Bikes » Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:10 pm

Philip

Another great result for all your work.
Can you put me down for two sets when they are available
Just let me know

Danny

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Re: If you can't find it... cable bands

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:37 pm

I picked them up today to see if the compound used was suitable.
I am happy that it is.
So I will go back and get some on order.

I am happy to sell individually to members but will probably sell as a set if and when I put them on e bay.
Now to think of a price (to help recoup the 4 hours of 3D router machining)

Rather proud of this one. I didn't have to call on my brother-in-law or my mate Glen once!
(saving other projects for them)

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Re: If you can't find it... cable bands

Postby koen » Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:49 am

After I saw yours years ago Phillip, I made my own with a pair of scissors and an old tube. They are still working.
Just in case anyone else wants some!

Great work as usual though.

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Re: If you can't find it... cable bands

Postby familyguy » Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:23 am

What range of tube sizes will these cover? Very interested in some for a slightly larger OD TT on a SS (!)

Jim

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Re: If you can't find it... cable bands

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:14 am

Jim
can you measure your tube? I will replicate the tube size and try it.

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Re: If you can't find it... cable bands

Postby silverlight » Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:07 pm

SUPERB Philip
Count me in with a few
Will come in handy with a few builds im nearing completion.

SL

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Re: If you can't find it... cable bands

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:50 pm

Pricing for BNA forum members $2 post and pack; plus $2 for each cable band.

PM me with numbers required small and large. And let me know how fast you need them, as I will move the ones to go onto 'almost finished projects' up the queue.

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Re: If you can't find it... cable bands

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:47 am

and sometimes colour is used
ImageShockstops 0318 by philip.knight, on Flickr

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Re: If you can't find it... cable bands

Postby ldrcycles » Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:52 pm

You must be the world's premier source of obscure vintage accessories :)
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Re: If you can't find it... cable bands

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:20 pm

a set each of the red, green and black 'honking' rubbers will be posted tomorrow to a collector in Texas.
As I am mechanically and practically inept, it is my quest to have the period details in place that drives others to despair.

Trying to get an understanding of how to bend fork blades, cast Shockstop bar end plugs and electro-etch brass badges are on my current research and undertake list.

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Re: If you can't find it... cable bands

Postby old steel Bikes » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:37 pm

Are you doing different colours or is this just a special order??

Danny

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Re: If you can't find it... cable bands

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:25 pm

old steel Bikes wrote:Are you doing different colours or is this just a special order??
Danny

these colours are stable, so can be done to order.
Green bands are darker than shown. Might work on that rich boys Hetchins of yours. The John Bull and Dunlop cable bands came in colours.

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Re: If you can't find it... cable bands

Postby RobertFrith » Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:09 am

Super happy with the green ones on my '47 MS 5 Star;

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Re: If you can't find it... cable bands

Postby 10speedsemiracer » Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:48 am

Clydesdale Scot wrote:and sometimes colour is used
ImageShockstops 0318 by philip.knight, on Flickr


This is fantastic, congratulations. Wish I had something I could put some of these on...
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