Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
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Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby enduro2 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:26 am
If I played any other outdoor sport (bowls, cricket, swimming etc) most practitioners would be wearing long sleeves to protect themselves from accumulative exposure to UV rays (a known cause of skin ailments and skin cancers).
So why is it that most cyclists choose to wear SS Jerseys? For me, in regards to sweat evaporation, there is no difference between LS & SS as LS in my experience has v good breathability.
Why do clothing manufacturers choose to offer almost if not exclusively SS Jerseys?
Currently, I'm involved in a monthly charity ride. I'll be exposing myself to about 30hrs of extra sunlight this month (in ~2 hour stints). They only offered Jersey (I have a few of my own LS) is a short sleeve.
For me, I will only wear LS jerseys and don't want the hassle of using additional arm coolers/warmers when I can slip on one garment to do the lot. I've never felt hot wearing a light coloured jersey on a hot morning in Perth (where in summer it can be 30'C at 9am).
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby find_bruce » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:43 am
Sun sleeves are a good choice for your charity ride
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby RhapsodyX » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:18 am
Funny story (?) - years ago Steve Hogg came down to Canberra for a training camp, ended up with sunburn on the head through the helmet vent holes. It had never happened to him in Sydney before - but clean air and 500M+ above sea level makes for a lot more UV.
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby RobertL » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:22 am
That's something that can also happen to men (mostly) with the entering of middle-aged years and hair loss. Um, according to a friend...RhapsodyX wrote:"Arm coolers", which is arm warmers without the fleece. And lots of sunscreen. And a buff. And more sunscreen.
Funny story (?) - years ago Steve Hogg came down to Canberra for a training camp, ended up with sunburn on the head through the helmet vent holes. It had never happened to him in Sydney before - but clean air and 500M+ above sea level makes for a lot more UV.
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby g-boaf » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:38 pm
Are you riding 30 hours in one go, or 30 hours in a month? You can just use the protective sleeves that look like arm warmers, but don't make you warmer.enduro2 wrote:Hi all,
If I played any other outdoor sport (bowls, cricket, swimming etc) most practitioners would be wearing long sleeves to protect themselves from accumulative exposure to UV rays (a known cause of skin ailments and skin cancers).
So why is it that most cyclists choose to wear SS Jerseys? For me, in regards to sweat evaporation, there is no difference between LS & SS as LS in my experience has v good breathability.
Why do clothing manufacturers choose to offer almost if not exclusively SS Jerseys?
Currently, I'm involved in a monthly charity ride. I'll be exposing myself to about 30hrs of extra sunlight. They only offered Jersey (I have my own LS) is a short sleeve.
It's just easier to offer a shorter sleeve jersey and then you do as you wish.
Only 500m+ above sea level? Try 2600m or 2700m. Then you notice it more. Particularly in Deux Alpes - 29ºC feels quite hot - roasting! But also pretty damn nice too, really great place. Sitting outside having a late lunch in the afternoon, that's the life.RobertL wrote:but clean air and 500M+ above sea level makes for a lot more UV.
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby Thoglette » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:48 pm
Care to mention the brand?Mugglechops wrote:I ride in a lightweight long sleeve merino button up shirt in summer and never find it gets too hot.
These things are never cheap so recommendations are always welcome.
To the OP: I tend to use arm "warmers" and, when I'm cycling in funny clothes, I tend to ride in the early morning or late evening.
"Daytime" cycling tends to be short trips to the shop, in which case I'm in civvies.
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby rodneycc » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:56 pm
Edit: with the increase in skin cancers you may well find increasing popularity with lightweight LS jerseys in Summer.
I've got a couple of sets of arm warmers but never really got on well with them. Rather the full LS jersey or SS Jersey personally. LS jersey's that I have had weren't very aero either, but I'm sure you could get better ones like the skin suits. Not really for the 100kg me though
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby Mugglechops » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:40 pm
Here you goThoglette wrote:Care to mention the brand?Mugglechops wrote:I ride in a lightweight long sleeve merino button up shirt in summer and never find it gets too hot.
These things are never cheap so recommendations are always welcome.
To the OP: I tend to use arm "warmers" and, when I'm cycling in funny clothes, I tend to ride in the early morning or late evening.
"Daytime" cycling tends to be short trips to the shop, in which case I'm in civvies.
The best priced one I have found.
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby cyclotaur » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:44 pm
In LS I have...
1 white and 1 flouro LS Netti, both fairly old, which I mainly use for touring.
1 LS AroundTheBay (2012?) which I bought as an extra option because it was offered that year. Also have the SS which was supplied.
1 winter and 1 summer weight LS Jersey from a TdF tour I did in 2011. Also have the 2011 SS and two more SS from another tour with the same mob in 2016.
1 LS 'Cicli Cortina' jersey I bought in Italy in 2014.
1 other winter weight LS jersey I have used about 3 times in 5 years.
So that's seven LS altogether, and I almost always wear one or other of them every ride. I often wear a short sleeve jersey over the top, rather than wearing base layers, unless it's quite chilly in which case I have 2 SS and one LS base layer to pick from.
The two I wear the most are the 2012 ATB LS, and the LS summer weight TdF.
Today I wore the 2012 LS ATB jersey under another SS.
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby Velt » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:48 pm
https://www.groundeffect.co.nz/products ... eeve-shirt
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby bychosis » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:12 pm
That’s a good point. Summer time I Ride morning or evening. Very rarely for any length of time during the middle of the day - it’s too hot. Try to be home before 9 or start after 4.Thoglette wrote:To the OP: I tend to use arm "warmers" and, when I'm cycling in funny clothes, I tend to ride in the early morning or late evening.
"Daytime" cycling tends to be short trips to the shop, in which case I'm in civvies.
Something about mad dogs and Englishmen ...
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby Thoglette » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:52 pm
Thanks!Mugglechops wrote:The best priced one I have found.
Also to Velt - I've got a few GroundEffect items and have had my eye on the Rock Lobster for a while
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby Tim » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:45 pm
5 or 6 years ago a I bought a number of long sleeved jerseys from Ground Effect.Thoglette wrote:... have had my eye on the Rock Lobster for a while
2 synthetic tops, a Rock Lobster and a Zip Tie, and 2 merino Berglar tops.
I no longer wear the synthetics having found them hot and clammy above about 25C, plus they both stretched noticeably.
I still wear the merino (synthetic blend) tops from this time of year in Victoria onwards, up to about 30C. The merino blend is comfortable and has a more versatile temperature range than the synthetics. The merino tops have stretched too but it doesn't worry me.
The merino is good for a cool morning start and a warm to hot late morning finish.
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby Arbuckle23 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:53 pm
You know there's a fix for that?Mububban wrote:Putting sunscreen on very hairy legs is kinda gross
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby trailgumby » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:21 pm
I have a dhb ASV LS jersey that is quite good, but I lost one of my sun sleeves at the start of my M7 ride a couple of weeks ago when I did a quick switch to the winter jacket at the start becasue it was colder than expected. Need to buy a new pair.
Merino is comfortable but I find the abrasion/wear resistance to be very poor compared to polyester.
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby TheWall » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:05 pm
I like the versatility of the arm coolers as I can take them off/put them back on at will. Often, on a longer summer outings I'll only put them on halfway through the ride when the sun is out and burning.
Best ones I have come across is the Castelli 50+ and the Morvelo.
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby JPB » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:24 pm
I agree, especially at the budget/affordable end of the market.trailgumby wrote:I find the lack of LS summer weight jerseys to be thoroughly frustrating
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby Ancientflatulence » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:24 pm
https://www.target.com.au/p/men-s-activ ... t/61064119
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby enduro2 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:52 pm
I have a LS Ground Effect too ... I think it's a Rock Lobster too. It has been brilliant for full protection.Velt wrote:I have a Ground Effect Rock Lobster. It's pretty good, it's a relaxed fit but they offer a similar race fit jersey.
https://www.groundeffect.co.nz/products ... eeve-shirt
The other two LS Jerseys I have are $30 Fluid brand from Anaconda I purchased 6 years ago and were just as UV protective as the Ground Effect UV tested one.
Actually, while wearing the GE, I was getting singlet tan from my Assos bib shorts. Something that wasn't happening with the cheaper Fluid jersey.
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Re: Why Do Very Few Australian Cyclist Not Use LS Jerseys?
Postby mikgit » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:05 am
you also have to understand the fact that some people find wearing long sleeves no hotter than short sleeves, but other people don't find this. For me anything over ~15C and I'm not wearing long sleeves for anything. I find it gets uncomfortably warm. I'd rather slather myself in sunscreen (which i don't like either) than wear long sleeves.enduro2 wrote: So why is it that most cyclists choose to wear SS Jerseys? For me, in regards to sweat evaporation, there is no difference between LS & SS as LS in my experience has v good breathability.
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