Broken zipp rear hub
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Broken zipp rear hub
Postby warthog1 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:26 pm
It is radially laced on the drive side.
Any ideas on an alternative hub with which to get it rebuilt?
I will be getting a shop to do it.
It looks like this;
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby Duck! » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:33 pm
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby warthog1 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:00 pm
Is something like this going to work?Duck! wrote:Aftermarket 20-hole rear hubs are exceptionally rare, but not totally non-existent. Hope make one, but whether you (or your chosen shop) can find one in the country is another matter.
https://www.dtswiss.com/en/products/hub ... aightpull/
I found this; https://hollandbikeshop.com/en-gb/brand ... ck-466717/
The price! Shissen
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby Duck! » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:15 pm
No. The DT website description is poor, not distinguishing the spoke count options for front or rear hubs. The 240 does NOT have a 20-hole rear option; 20 is only available for the front. That insanely-priced 180 is their only 20-hole rear model.warthog1 wrote: Is something like this going to work?
https://www.dtswiss.com/en/products/hub ... aightpull/
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby rodneycc » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:02 pm
http://www.whiteind.com/t11/
Not sure what else its reliant on but think I remember seeing Zipp wheels with rebuilt white industries hubs on ebay at some stage before.
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby biker jk » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:32 am
https://www.bdopcycling.com/Hubs-F482SB-SL-11.asp
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby warthog1 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:03 pm
I'm liking the price of that novatec hub Biker jk.
I care zip(p) about any snob factor
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby find_bruce » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:56 am
White Industries T11 Rear Hub comes in 20 hole, but t won't be much cheaper
Bike 24 list the Hope RS4 hub for €162.60 + shipping, but neither black nor silver are in stock in 20 holes
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby BJL » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:27 am
Duck?
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby mikesbytes » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:17 pm
Another perhaps smaller consideration is the space and size of the flanges, as you might be able to recycle those expensive spokes.
Also if your running 10 speed, then check if the new hub is compatible with 11 speed with a free body change to future proof
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby warthog1 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:59 pm
I'm not sure about warranty. NRS neutral service wheels from a few seasons back. Got them at well under half price and near new. That may preclude warranty.mikesbytes wrote:Do you know why it broke? Perhaps Zipp will replace it under warranty or you can purchase a hub from Zipp.
Another perhaps smaller consideration is the space and size of the flanges, as you might be able to recycle those expensive spokes.
Also if your running 10 speed, then check if the new hub is compatible with 11 speed with a free body change to future proof
84 reasons it broke, plenty of them around my waistline
A replacement one will likely break too.
It's 11s but I just won't ride it much I guess.
Most of the speed is in the front wheel and that'll have to do me if I go on those fast bunch rides I prob have no place being in anymore.
A significant form reversal will need to place first too.
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby MichaelB » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:01 pm
Wow - never seen that combo beforefind_bruce wrote:Chris King make a 29 hle hub, but its even more insanely-priced than the DT swiss 180.
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby warthog1 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:02 pm
Thanksfind_bruce wrote:Chris King make a 29 hle hub, but its even more insanely-priced than the DT swiss 180.
White Industries T11 Rear Hub comes in 20 hole, but t won't be much cheaper
Bike 24 list the Hope RS4 hub for €162.60 + shipping, but neither black nor silver are in stock in 20 holes
I'm liking Biker's novatec option I think.
I'll see what the wheel bloke says.
Haven't been to see him yet.
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby Duck! » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:41 pm
No you can't. Only way to get a Zipp replacement is to send (via your LBS) the wheel to SRAM DSD Australia in Melbourne or Echelon Sports (formerly Zipp Aus before SRAM bought out Zipp) in Brisbane and have the wheel rebuilt. Zipp hubs are not available, even to Zipp dealers.mikesbytes wrote:...or you can purchase a hub from Zipp.
BJL wrote:I'm interested to know why it was laced that way. Radial lacing on the drive side and what appears to be 1x lacing on the non drive side. Everything I've read suggests that radial lacing is the weakest so why do that on the drive side of a rear hub? Having said that, I'm not really familiar with low spoke count wheels as I'm on the heavier side and all my wheels are 32 spoke 3x lacing. I'm simple in this regard.
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Radial lacing helps with the lateral stiffness of the wheel, especially with low spoke counts. Low spoke counts also need fewer crosses in the lacing because there's naturally a greater angle off the hub due to the distance betwen each spoke. Also, slightly surprisingly, there's little difference in torsional rigidity between having the crossed lacing on drive side, off side or both sides.
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby find_bruce » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:25 am
Odd # spokes is the latest thing from shelbroco. Be interesting trying to build a wheelMichaelB wrote:Wow - never seen that combo beforefind_bruce wrote:Chris King make a 29 hle hub, but its even more insanely-priced than the DT swiss 180.
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby foo on patrol » Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:09 am
To much power being produced, Warty!warthog1 wrote:I'm not sure about warranty. NRS neutral service wheels from a few seasons back. Got them at well under half price and near new. That may preclude warranty.mikesbytes wrote:Do you know why it broke? Perhaps Zipp will replace it under warranty or you can purchase a hub from Zipp.
Another perhaps smaller consideration is the space and size of the flanges, as you might be able to recycle those expensive spokes.
Also if your running 10 speed, then check if the new hub is compatible with 11 speed with a free body change to future proof
84 reasons it broke, plenty of them around my waistline
A replacement one will likely break too.
It's 11s but I just won't ride it much I guess.
Most of the speed is in the front wheel and that'll have to do me if I go on those fast bunch rides I prob have no place being in anymore.
A significant form reversal will need to place first too.
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby warthog1 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:37 am
Are you saying I develop 84 watts during a sprint?foo on patrol wrote:
To much power being produced, Warty!
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby foo on patrol » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:43 am
Yeah but ya left the 0 off.warthog1 wrote:Are you saying I develop 840 watts during a sprint?foo on patrol wrote:
To much power being produced, Warty!
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby warthog1 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:25 pm
Maybe I could muster that for a few nanoseconds a few years back (never been a sprinter)foo on patrol wrote:Yeah but ya left the 0 off.warthog1 wrote:Are you saying I develop 840 watts during a sprint?foo on patrol wrote:
To much power being produced, Warty!
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby JV911 » Wed May 27, 2020 8:53 am
https://flic.kr/p/2j62HRN
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby warthog1 » Wed May 27, 2020 11:15 am
That's what mine did.JV911 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 8:53 amI came across this thread after breaking a hub this morning...
https://flic.kr/p/2j62HRN
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Re: Broken zipp rear hub
Postby JV911 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:35 am
The wheels are 5 years old but low km, and the warranty was only 2 years. So, while it wasn't covered under warranty, they did it a discounted price (still $500) so I have a suspicion they know those particular hubs are a bit shyte. The front was actually recalled a few years ago, and the hub was replaced. Apparently the old one had a tendency for catastrophic failure
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