buying non-700x23 tubes
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buying non-700x23 tubes
Postby stryker84 » Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:16 am
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Postby europa » Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:57 am
Not a silly question at all. It's quicker to change a whole tube on the side of the road than fix a puncture. The puncture may be too large to patch. The best move is to carry a tube and a repair kit - change the tube for the first puncture and, if you're unlucky, fix the second oneMJF wrote:This might sound like a dumb question.... but why not just have one spare tube and a repair kit?
Last puncture I got was in pouring rain - it was a lot more fun patching that one at home
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Postby heavymetal » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:01 am
Murphy's law dictates that you will always get a puncture on a dangerous spot of road where you can't get off of the road due to the abundance of triple G thorns.
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Postby MJF » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:23 am
Must be an echo around here...europa wrote:Not a silly question at all. It's quicker to change a whole tube on the side of the road than fix a puncture. The puncture may be too large to patch. The best move is to carry a tube and a repair kit - change the tube for the first puncture and, if you're unlucky, fix the second oneMJF wrote:This might sound like a dumb question.... but why not just have one spare tube and a repair kit?
Last puncture I got was in pouring rain - it was a lot more fun patching that one at home
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Postby europa » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:49 am
With the price of tubes, especially in a bundle, why mess with patching at all, just toss the old one. Consumerism at its greatest.
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Postby stryker84 » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:13 pm
didn't want to fork out the dosh (+P&H!) and then not be able to use them... though having said that, i'll probably get a full-on roadie, or swap over to 23 tyres sometime in the near future.
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Postby mikesbytes » Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:42 pm
Tubes cost bugger all, at the moment you can get 10 tubes for $30 at Torpedo7. Patching is an enviornmental choice, but if you don't patch I still recommend that you have a go, as you need the skill, so you can do it on the road if necessary.europa wrote:I reckon you pulled a sneaky edit on me (hmm, doesn't show). Okay, I misread it as - why have a spare tube and a repair kit. So there ttthhhhbbbpppp
With the price of tubes, especially in a bundle, why mess with patching at all, just toss the old one. Consumerism at its greatest.
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Postby geoffs » Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:08 am
Yes they will, but they will be so stretched out that the tiniest puncture will make them go bang. Putting a 19/23c should be considered for emergencies only.stryker84 wrote:so, 23 will fit in my 28s? good to know. the torpedoo7 tubes are specced 700x19/23C, and mine was 700x28/32C, so i wasn't too sure.
didn't want to fork out the dosh (+P&H!) and then not be able to use them... though having said that, i'll probably get a full-on roadie, or swap over to 23 tyres sometime in the near future.
Most bike shops stock 28c tubes. If you want 10 see if they will do a deal but if you are getting that many punctures perhaps you should be getting a more puncture proof tyre.
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Postby Mr888 » Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:47 pm
Torpedo 7 has Live help online. It's very helpful. You should be able to get 28/32 at the same price. Just ask...they might even be cheaper if you ask nicelystryker84 wrote:not that i need 10, but was considering the cost saving for bulk, as in 10 23C tubes from torpedo 7 is about $1.50 a tube. and it's not like i'll let them go out of date.
looks like a trip to the LBS then.
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Postby LuckyPierre » Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:10 pm
That took care of my first run in with glass on today's ride, but the next one meant I was down to my last patch - ie. I'd used it, so I had to ride almost 25 km holding my breath (figuratively speaking) and keeping a very sharp eye out for more glass. My best (worst?) ride yet for punctures (both tyres, two times ). I knew that I shouldn't have said that my Evo's seemed more puncture resistant than the Pro2Race's!europa wrote: ... The best move is to carry a tube and a repair kit - change the tube for the first puncture and, if you're unlucky, fix the second one ...
ps. I got a good 'nod' score though - every rider that passed me (all three of them) offered to help and even two motorists.
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Postby mikesbytes » Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:01 am
4 flats, that got to be a record for one ride. Hope you haven't jinxed me, I've had 12 flats this year so far.LuckyPierre wrote:That took care of my first run in with glass on today's ride, but the next one meant I was down to my last patch - ie. I'd used it, so I had to ride almost 25 km holding my breath (figuratively speaking) and keeping a very sharp eye out for more glass. My best (worst?) ride yet for punctures (both tyres, two times ). I knew that I shouldn't have said that my Evo's seemed more puncture resistant than the Pro2Race's!europa wrote: ... The best move is to carry a tube and a repair kit - change the tube for the first puncture and, if you're unlucky, fix the second one ...
ps. I got a good 'nod' score though - every rider that passed me (all three of them) offered to help and even two motorists.
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Postby mikesbytes » Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:58 pm
So its Jenny Craig for me ?europa wrote:You're obviously carrying too much weight. I've only had one flat this yearmikesbytes wrote:4 flats, that got to be a record for one ride. Hope you haven't jinxed me, I've had 12 flats this year so far.
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Postby 531db » Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:23 pm
"Yes they will, but they will be so stretched out that the tiniest puncture will make them go bang. Putting a 19/23c should be considered for emergencies only.
Most bike shops stock 28c tubes. If you want 10 see if they will do a deal but if you are getting that many punctures perhaps you should be getting a more puncture proof tyre.
Cheers
Geoff"
Not true, 23C tubes in 28C tyres are fine. I use Tioga/Kenda 23C tubes in my Maxxis 28C's for zero punctures in about 10,000 km.
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Postby pospete » Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:49 pm
So its Jenny Craig for me ?mikesbytes wrote:europa wrote:You're obviously carrying too much weight. I've only had one flat this yearmikesbytes wrote:4 flats, that got to be a record for one ride. Hope you haven't jinxed me, I've had 12 flats this year so far.
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Yes, but in what position?
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Postby geoffs » Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:51 pm
I just went through this exercise this morning and was reminded again of how much tension a 18/23c tube is under by the time it fills the volume of a 28c tyre.531db wrote:geoffs wrote
"Yes they will, but they will be so stretched out that the tiniest puncture will make them go bang. Putting a 19/23c should be considered for emergencies only.
Most bike shops stock 28c tubes. If you want 10 see if they will do a deal but if you are getting that many punctures perhaps you should be getting a more puncture proof tyre.
Cheers
Geoff"
Not true, 23C tubes in 28C tyres are fine. I use Tioga/Kenda 23C tubes in my Maxxis 28C's for zero punctures in about 10,000 km.
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Some people are just lucky. I have friends who did a 10,000km tour with no punctures and their tyres still had plenty of tread left. I'm amazed when a tyre lasts 3,000kms.
So go and give yourself a puncture and then try to repair the tube. Good luck fixing the split!
Cheers
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Postby mikesbytes » Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:18 pm
Isn't it interesting how 2 of the most experienced cyclist around can disagree.geoffs wrote:I just went through this exercise this morning and was reminded again of how much tension a 18/23c tube is under by the time it fills the volume of a 28c tyre.531db wrote:geoffs wrote
"Yes they will, but they will be so stretched out that the tiniest puncture will make them go bang. Putting a 19/23c should be considered for emergencies only.
Most bike shops stock 28c tubes. If you want 10 see if they will do a deal but if you are getting that many punctures perhaps you should be getting a more puncture proof tyre.
Cheers
Geoff"
Not true, 23C tubes in 28C tyres are fine. I use Tioga/Kenda 23C tubes in my Maxxis 28C's for zero punctures in about 10,000 km.
531db
Some people are just lucky. I have friends who did a 10,000km tour with no punctures and their tyres still had plenty of tread left. I'm amazed when a tyre lasts 3,000kms.
So go and give yourself a puncture and then try to repair the tube. Good luck fixing the split!
Cheers
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Postby stryker84 » Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:05 pm
would be more economical than an extra 28C tube from the LBS anyway, i went to pick one up (and i'm now back on the roads - hurrah!) and got hit with $10/tube from the shop i visited today.
even if they last a third of the distance compared to using a proper 28C tube, they're less than a third of the cost from torpedo7!
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