Cycling from Sydney to Perth or Perth to Syndney
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Cycling from Sydney to Perth or Perth to Syndney
Postby Penguin » Wed May 30, 2007 2:14 am
we are two german cyclists, who plan to travel from Sydney to Perth or Perth to Sydney depending on the wind situation.
Does anybody know from which direction the wind blows during summer, especially in december and january?
Thanks for helping us
Kai and Sylvia
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Postby Kalgrm » Wed May 30, 2007 11:34 am
The wind would dictate you ride from Perth to Sydney, however, my advice would be to reconsider the timing of the trip completely. Do you realise the trip is about 4500km? The temperatures can climb to well over 40 degrees C in summer and there is NO shade for much of the trip you propose. The road temperatures will feel like 55 degrees when the ambient temp is 40 deg.
I've run across many European tourists who did not comprehend the enormity of the Australian outback. Mostly, they are in cars and still get themselves into trouble. One memorable one was on the western side of the South Aus/Western Aus border, with a map of NSW as his only navigation aid. He asked us to show him where he was on the map. We gave him some water and suggested he turn back while he still had enough fuel to get back to the previous road house he had passed.
In any case, good luck with your trip, and don't underestimate the danger of the Aussie environment in summer.
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Postby Crank » Wed May 30, 2007 2:27 pm
But as said before December and January is the hottest time of the year, but again thats also different every year as well, I do most of my riding up north of Western Australia i carry up to 15 liters or more water, which sometimes i use all up, but also im am use to hot riding and know a few tricks to avoid water problems and heat stroke which is very bad.
SO the only problem i can see with the ride is the time of the year you are doing it,this time of the year would be good but the night times will be cold but at least you can warm up.
But if you are like me that, just about live on my bicycle and are use to heat and all the kind of wheather thats thrown at you well go a head and enjoy like to hear how you went as well. remember the water..
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Postby Kalgrm » Wed May 30, 2007 2:57 pm
Okay Crank, spill the beans on your tricks then. The OP is a German tourist who won't know your tricks unless you pass them on. You stated that you are "used to hot riding". I doubt they are.Crank wrote:..... but also im am use to hot riding and know a few tricks to avoid water problems and heat stroke which is very bad.
Additionally, they will be arriving from the northern winter and are not likely to have acclimated to the heat here. It will be very important for them to know exactly what they are getting themselves into.
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Postby europa » Wed May 30, 2007 3:15 pm
Personally, I think it's foolishness for any European to try to tour the Nullabor in high summer.
The other thing to consider is that Australia, overall, has a mild climate. There are few times of the year when you can not tour because of excessive cold or wet - you don't have to travel in summer (smart people try not to in some areas).
Then there is the tyranny of distance. Sorry if this sounds patronising to our German friends but unless you have experience the emptiness out there, you can not comprehend what those distances represent.
Perth to Squidly by bike? Very doable and it'd be a great trip. But please don't do it in Jan or Feb, choose a milder time of the year.
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Postby europa » Wed May 30, 2007 11:12 pm
Don't say that, we're hoping Kev'll have a crack at itstryker84 wrote:Personally, I think it's foolishness for almost anyone to try to tour the Nullabor in high summer.europa wrote:Personally, I think it's foolishness for any European to try to tour the Nullabor in high summer.
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Postby mikesbytes » Wed May 30, 2007 11:43 pm
Definently Crank territory.europa wrote:Don't say that, we're hoping Kev'll have a crack at itstryker84 wrote:Personally, I think it's foolishness for almost anyone to try to tour the Nullabor in high summer.europa wrote:Personally, I think it's foolishness for any European to try to tour the Nullabor in high summer.
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Postby Penguin » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:05 pm
Do you think November is a better time to tour this part (especially the nullabor) of australia ???
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Postby Kalgrm » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:22 pm
I've driven the Nullabor perhaps 16 times. I was not kidding earlier when I said it's 200km between places to get water, and it's like that for around 1200km . That means starting out every two days carrying around 30 litres of water, and doing so 3 times. If you have break-down, you will need to rely on passing traffic for help (that should not be a problem though - people are friendly enough.)
Having tried to put you off as much as I can (for your own safety), I have seen cyclists doing that trip on about 8 of the times I've travelled the route. Quite a few were in the heat of summer, so it is possible to do it. It's possible, but not desirable.
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Postby AUbicycles » Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:43 am
Have a look on the "Tours" part of bicycles.net.au. There are some other 'travel-logs' and should should be able to get some good tips regarding your trip.
There are a lot of safety considerations, be careful not to underestimate all of the factors:
- Water
- Sun / Heat
- Communication / support
- spare parts (repair kit - inner tubes)
I would try, when possible, to choose the coolest time possible to do the route because the desert heat is incredible.
Sonst wünsche ich Euch viel Glück und Spas. Am besten soviel informationen wie möglich besörgen und auch noch leute organisieren die Eurch am bestimmten Tagen erwarten (sonst informieren die die Notdienst). Und, beim problemen... warten... so spart man am besten Energie... es kommt immer einer.
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Postby heavymetal » Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:53 pm
If riding at this time of the year, you may probably need to ride at night or early morning and late afternoon.
Alternatively, buy a trike and put an umbrella on it
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Postby jibi » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:27 pm
I am planning the same ride in October 07 and the info here has been exactly what I was looking for.
I am sure I will have more questions but just reading the posts is enough for the moment
penguin... have a great trip
Tailwinds
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Postby heavymetal » Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:01 pm
Anyone fancy a ride? It might be shorter in distance, however, getting a water drop organised is a problem.
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