Slipstreaming whilst commuting?
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Postby tier » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:22 pm
Most commuters I see just leech on and wheelsuck as long as they can. If you're going to do that at least take a turn up front.
As someone else said, it's a commute, not a race. No PB's or jerseys for being first up the hill or anything else. You want to race, join a club and do so.
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Postby Chanboy » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:41 pm
I don't think they do it for the performance advantage, they do it because the guy at front (me) is creating a clear way through the pedestrians!
Knowing that you may have to swerve or slow down quickly, I think this practice is pretty dangerous.
Is there such a hand signal to indicate that you don't want someone to slipstream or just follow to closely?
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Postby madrapper » Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:28 pm
This post proves that complete tools can be found anywhere,... even on these forums :shock::evil:tier wrote:A better way is to just jam the breaks on hard and teach them a lesson. Drafting strangers is idiotic, childish and a no-no.
<shakes head in disbelief>
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Postby sogood » Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:35 pm
+1!madrapper wrote:This post proves that complete tools can be found anywhere,... even on these forums :shock::evil:tier wrote:A better way is to just jam the breaks on hard and teach them a lesson.
<shakes head in disbelief>
It's the exact same human mentality that Hassan Bakr had, one that created the 50 bike pile up on Southern Cross Dr last year.
Is he now riding a bike?
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Postby Mulger bill » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:40 pm
Hafta be a fixed 'bent going on the beardsogood wrote:+1!madrapper wrote:This post proves that complete tools can be found anywhere,... even on these forums :shock::evil:tier wrote:A better way is to just jam the breaks on hard and teach them a lesson.
<shakes head in disbelief>
It's the exact same human mentality that Hassan Bakr had, one that created the 50 bike pile up on Southern Cross Dr last year.
Is he now riding a bike?
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Postby goneriding » Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:33 pm
It is most common on Tuesday's and Thursday's when the Olympic Park guys are on their way home after training. Some of them get along at a good pace and they are good to hang on to.
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Postby tallywhacker » Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:06 am
took the words out of my mouth, if a motorist suggested this the would be an uproar from the forumites here. The silence is deafeningmadrapper wrote:This post proves that complete tools can be found anywhere,... even on these forums :shock::evil:tier wrote:A better way is to just jam the breaks on hard and teach them a lesson. Drafting strangers is idiotic, childish and a no-no.
<shakes head in disbelief>
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Postby RadioDog » Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:15 pm
Same here on Thursday. Guy in a yellow Tinkoff jersey on a flat-bar roadie? Think he might have been in a pair of Shimano shoes too.Chanboy wrote:Ordinarily I don't really have a problem with someone slipstreaming me... except the other day, this guy was stuck to my rear wheel going over the Pyrmont bridge.
He latched on at the start of the climb up the ramp on Quarter Master Road, Pyrmont and hung on up and over the bridge. I looked back at him 3 or 4 times and I got no reaction from him. With all the pedestrians on the bridge I want to know I can brake at anytime without some goose up my arse.
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Re: Slipstreaming whilst commuting?
Postby nitecheck » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:15 am
But I do have a question …is that when approaching on coming cyclists on paths - why do I often get a “dead stare†if I say hi or nod my head (which is a general motorcycle habit…meaning "hi & we are alike - best wishes" - or something along those lines)……
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Re: Slipstreaming whilst commuting?
Postby ruscook » Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:02 am
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Re: Slipstreaming whilst commuting?
Postby nitecheck » Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:43 am
Been there....ruscook wrote:Dunno, but I've seen it too. The funny thing for me is, as a motorcyclist and now cyclist, I sometimes "forget" which vehicle I'm on and give the nod to cyclists when on the Triumph or (worse from their perspective) give a motorcyclist the nod, when on the CRX They really don't know what to do when you do this latter , confuses the hell out of them
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I'm of the opinion that you are on 2 wheels we are alike....but I still remember a ride on the Viffer to Sydney (I REALLY hate the city) - when stopped at set of lights "trapped" in traffic - lifting the visor to "chat" with a "scooterist" .....the guy went I "eyes front" & only after shouting at him (I need directions ) did he look at me & started to act "normal" .....about 4kms down the road (& 20 mins later.......) the next "scooterist" was a girl - same questions - Yes - REALLY hopeless in the inner city too
Much better reception - but as lights the turned green she rattled of a 04somthin ...number...with a "txt meeeeee" - as she happily lane split the standing traffic in front of us...me on my beasty did not have a chance in keeping up due to being to way wide to split in close quarters (would have better my bike!) ...I REALLY hate the city....
On a bright note I have a GPS unit now....so getting lost as I normally do is less likely....(I hope)
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Re: Slipstreaming whilst commuting?
Postby casual_cyclist » Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:59 am
Dunno. I have got some pretty good responses from some cyclists with a smile or a nod and even some peds too. It depends on what they are wearing The more team gear, the less likley I am to get a response. It doesn't bother me though because I figure some of those dudes are concentrating pretty hard to make sure they stay on speed and cadence. The look on their faces tell me they are concentrating pretty hard anyway.nitecheck wrote:But I do have a question …is that when approaching on coming cyclists on paths - why do I often get a “dead stare†if I say hi or nod my head (which is a general motorcycle habit…meaning "hi & we are alike - best wishes" - or something along those lines)……
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Re: Slipstreaming whilst commuting?
Postby nitecheck » Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:59 am
Good point ...different a agendas ....as I'm not a seriously completive cyclist - I may have different expectations regarding courtesycasual_cyclist wrote:Dunno. I have got some pretty good responses from some cyclists with a smile or a nod and even some peds too. It depends on what they are wearing The more team gear, the less likley I am to get a response. It doesn't bother me though because I figure some of those dudes are concentrating pretty hard to make sure they stay on speed and cadence. The look on their faces tell me they are concentrating pretty hard anyway.nitecheck wrote:But I do have a question …is that when approaching on coming cyclists on paths - why do I often get a “dead stare†if I say hi or nod my head (which is a general motorcycle habit…meaning "hi & we are alike - best wishes" - or something along those lines)……
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Re: Slipstreaming whilst commuting?
Postby Tale » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:41 am
The other day, I got off my bike from a commute and into my car for a shopping trip. I drove up a hill, and I felt good and strong when I reached the top, then I freewheeled down the other side ... until I realised I was in the car and hit the brake pedal.Tale wrote:ruscook wrote:The funny thing for me is, as a motorcyclist and now cyclist, I sometimes "forget" which vehicle I'm on
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Re: Slipstreaming whilst commuting?
Postby casual_cyclist » Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:23 pm
I get my biggest smiles from other sympathetic bike riders when I am puffing up a hill and they are coasting down the same hillnitecheck wrote:Good point ...different a agendas ....as I'm not a seriously completive cyclist - I may have different expectations regarding courtesycasual_cyclist wrote:Dunno. I have got some pretty good responses from some cyclists with a smile or a nod and even some peds too. It depends on what they are wearing The more team gear, the less likley I am to get a response. It doesn't bother me though because I figure some of those dudes are concentrating pretty hard to make sure they stay on speed and cadence. The look on their faces tell me they are concentrating pretty hard anyway.
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Postby casual_cyclist » Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:07 pm
If there are any noobs reading this, please don't try this. There is a good chance the person following you will crash into your bike which could cause significant damage to your bike and may cause you to fall off. Rather than teaching the person behind a lesson, you are likely to come out worse off.madrapper wrote:This post proves that complete tools can be found anywhere,... even on these forumstier wrote:A better way is to just jam the breaks on hard and teach them a lesson. Drafting strangers is idiotic, childish and a no-no.
<shakes head in disbelief>
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Postby Thoglette » Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:46 pm
To add to that my medical bills from my last 'off' have, I think, just broken the magical $1000 figure. Zero surgery involved. And there's more to come.casual_cyclist wrote: If there are any noobs reading this, please don't try this. There is a good chance the person following you will crash into your bike which could cause significant damage to your bike and may cause you to fall off. Rather than teaching the person behind a lesson, you are likely to come out worse off.
The biggest single part of this was the ambulance ride at c. $600 - do make sure you have some cover for this as I went barely 10km.
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Postby casual_cyclist » Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:04 pm
Thanks for pointing that out, I had not thought of that. I believe it's not that expensive but an abulance ride is!Thoglette wrote:To add to that my medical bills from my last 'off' have, I think, just broken the magical $1000 figure. Zero surgery involved. And there's more to come.casual_cyclist wrote: If there are any noobs reading this, please don't try this. There is a good chance the person following you will crash into your bike which could cause significant damage to your bike and may cause you to fall off. Rather than teaching the person behind a lesson, you are likely to come out worse off.
The biggest single part of this was the ambulance ride at c. $600 - do make sure you have some cover for this as I went barely 10km.
P.S. I just looked it up in WA its $29.40 per annum Ambulance only from Medibank Private. Pretty small investment IMO
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Re: Slipstreaming whilst commuting?
Postby trailgumby » Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:52 pm
I too think brake testing a drafter is a bad idea. Too easy to get hit and then you both get hurt, or he gets hurt and you suffer a ripped-off rear deraileur. Better to gradually slow down and annoy them into passing you instead of being a !! BAN ME NOW FOR SWEARING !!. I used to brake test folks who sat on my rear when driving, but I now get a lot more satisfaction from adopting the slow and easy approach. In any case, often they're not as close as you think and then you look like a goose. And when I'm on the bike there's lest chance of being run over when it's a bus doing the drafting.
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Re: Slipstreaming whilst commuting?
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Re: Slipstreaming whilst commuting?
Postby nitecheck » Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:27 am
I do this when driving or riding a motorbike now using the trick on the bike - even slowly shaving 5km/h off your speed will get impatient drivers/riders off your tail....funny enough I checked the our car's trip computer against my bike for the week - average speed was 38km/h (car)to 33km/h (bike).....interesting figurestrailgumby wrote: but I now get a lot more satisfaction from adopting the slow and easy approach. In any case, often they're not as close as you think and then you look like a goose. And when I'm on the bike there's lest chance of being run over when it's a bus doing the drafting.
Have you noticed when riding a bike that the trend of traffic lights seems to be to stop traffic rather than make it flow? I reguarly catch the same cars at lights unless they race the amber or they get a good straight without many lights....must be frustrating to be a jack rabbit
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