Flying 200?
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Flying 200?
Postby broke » Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:03 pm
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby snailman » Fri May 01, 2009 7:46 pm
Depends what kind of track your riding on, how fast it is, if its indoors or outdoors etc. before people can make a good suggestion on gears.
Let us know what kinda times your riding as well
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby alex » Mon May 04, 2009 10:39 pm
but i am also pretty amateur so dont take that as gospel
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby snailman » Mon May 04, 2009 11:22 pm
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby brades68 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:09 am
I'm also chasing some flying 200m tips, in particular the line to use when approaching and going through the final turn before the timing line. I've noticed 2 lines used (locally and via Youtube), one is to stay high throughout that turn (turn 3?) hitting the timing line at speed and between the blue and red lines and the other is to dive in at the entry to turn 3 crossing the timing line between the black and red lines.
What do you guru's (i.e non noobs) find works for you and why so? my best time so far is 14:22 on 48x15 using the first method. i still have a long way to go with strength and fitness, but any tactical tips will be appreciated
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby foo on patrol » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:38 pm
A 330mtr velodrome .......trying to think back now. Ride the bank hmmm about 2mtrs from the top and be well on your
way to being fully cranked up and drop off, just as the bank starts to taper down and aim for the top line of the sprinters lane
where you have the start line rise from the bottom of the track. Then you just go straight to the bottom line and stay there.
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby brades68 » Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:48 am
The Velodrome is the Kenrick Tucker Velodrome in Rockhampton which is a 330m track, steep banked concrete track........ I'm sure the steep bank makes it fun .
Going by your tips, i seem to be leaving it a little late in dropping down.
Am also going to try a 48 x 14 - tip from a rider last night after 25 lap motor-paced scratch race
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby brentono » Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:51 pm
Here's a bit of retro-video (may give you some pointers) on a similar style Track in '70's.
One of the fastest ever! This guy went on to crack 10seconds in early Eighties.
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby brentono » Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:27 pm
Historically 48x14 is the Sprinters Gear.
(trained with, raced and observed many World Class Sprinters)
For it was the most used gear.
Still today it would work (for a trained fast cadence rider)
From my day, see slight variations in times done today, and that's maybe down to track conditions.
Just remember bigger gears, doesn't necessarily mean faster times. That's fact.
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby bigfriendlyvegan » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:26 pm
Getting your butt handed to you by a 14 y.o. on restricted gearing also confirms that.brentono wrote: Just remember bigger gears, doesn't necessarily mean faster times. That's fact.
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby brades68 » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:26 am
Cheers
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby brades68 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:15 am
Cheers
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby brentono » Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:22 pm
Did most of my Track development work on 47x14 training and 200's (at the Track)
Would try this, learn to pedal more smoothly, and you may find you times improve.
(behind a motorpacer, and trying to come over the pacer, in the last 50-100m of a 200m.)
Then at a later date, when you find you may have nearly reached a peak fitness level,
you might want to try 48x14 the Sprinters Gear, at the final stages of your preparation.
Just a suggestion, and I know it works.
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby foo on patrol » Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:21 pm
If you can do the motor paced training, you will see a substantial increase in your speed and reaction times.
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby brades68 » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:24 pm
The Qld Track Masters are on here this weekend, are you coming up Foo?
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby foo on patrol » Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:05 pm
Good luck with them Brades and if you see Ron Hickson say hi from Gary.(Ipswich Club)
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby alex » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:25 pm
i reckon on a 96 i would go well under my PB but i cant be bothered changing gears
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby brentono » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:57 pm
Just remember bigger gears, doesn't necessarily mean faster times. That's fact.alex wrote:since my post above from 2009, i now do all my mass start racing on a 91.8 and that is the same gear i set my fastest 200 with
i reckon on a 96 i would go well under my PB but i cant be bothered changing gears
Try the 47x14. And train at it, you may get a surprise.
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby alex » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:20 pm
i have used small gears a fair bit, raced 2 seasons mainly on an 88, sometimes in training we use an 84.6 - i can even recall a couple of sessions on an 81!
i prefer the bigger gears personally, i think for an all out attempt on going for a PB in the 200 i would be better on a 96.4 than a 91.8 by far
for most racing i like a 91.8 because it is big enough that you can still wind it up in a 200 for example, but small enough to get on top of in any gate start events... i hate changing gears and a 91.8 is a pretty versatile all rounder
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Re: Flying 200?
Postby brentono » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:31 pm
Agree with you 91.8 is a pretty versatile all rounder
Used it often, and won many events on it.
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