Commuting lock up advice
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Commuting lock up advice
Postby tier » Wed May 13, 2009 1:20 pm
Anyway, the bike I locked mine next to had left on: front light, rear light, trip computer, pump, water bottle and helmet (resting on frame, not locked).
None of them were bolted on, just clipped on. You could have walked off with the lot.
I see this all the time. So use a bit of common sense.
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby Mulger bill » Wed May 13, 2009 3:29 pm
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby hartleymartin » Thu May 14, 2009 8:10 pm
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby mikedufty » Fri May 15, 2009 12:05 am
Did lose a gearsack off a motorbike once though.
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby Biffidus » Fri May 15, 2009 12:36 am
The lights and computer on the other hand, they come with me.
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby m@ » Fri May 15, 2009 9:49 am
There's probably a bit of Say What-is-that factor with the air zoundBiffidus wrote:I have had an Air Zound attached with cable ties for about 10 years now. It would be trivial to steal but so far no one has touched it. I cant see that the quick release wheels or seat would be hard to pinch either. I guess you just have to be a little fussy where you park your pride and joy.
The lights and computer on the other hand, they come with me.
Thinking about it though - who steals computers and lights? Surely it's not fellow cyclists, but what use are they to crack-heads? Maybe they use the lights at raves...
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby suzieQ » Fri May 15, 2009 11:24 am
I've had my trip computer stolen, they also loosened the attached sensor unit from the wheel but didn't manage to get it completely off, if that's not a cyclist its one hell of a clued up junkie!!m@ wrote: Thinking about it though - who steals computers and lights? Surely it's not fellow cyclists, but what use are they to crack-heads? Maybe they use the lights at raves...
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby BikingMarco » Fri May 15, 2009 4:35 pm
...that would be me! Never take my clip lights off - never had anything stolen. The bike is locked (lock around frame+rear wheel+helmet) at the city or the beach or in front of my appartment block or my work place - you name it. People are not as evil as many may think... Or I've just been lucky all those years???tier wrote:...Anyway, the bike I locked mine next to had left on: front light, rear light, trip computer, pump, water bottle and helmet (resting on frame, not locked).
None of them were bolted on, just clipped on. You could have walked off with the lot. ...
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby misterhorsey » Mon May 18, 2009 8:20 pm
While I'm waiting for it to load up, just wanted to know whether front wheel thefts on non-QR wheels are at all common.
I got a krptonite U-lock on my frame and back wheel, but am thinking of getting a cable to tie around the front wheel but don't know whether this is just overkill. As I said, I don't have QR wheels. I mean, one can never be too careful, but one might also break one's back with all the stuff one has to carry in one's backpack!!!!!!
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby sharktamin » Mon May 18, 2009 8:39 pm
Clearly New York is inhabited by theives and vagabonds - how much low scum does it take to vandalise / steel bikes like that!
I do lock my bike in public places, although not with the amount of effort recommended by some, and have never had any theat of or from my bikes
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby super_simian » Tue May 19, 2009 5:45 pm
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby the dang » Tue May 19, 2009 11:09 pm
But if you have a really really expensive wheel and/or it gives you peace of mind, go for it. You could probably buy a small cable and pad lock, just enough to make it too much of a hassle to try and steal.
I remember seeing a photo on bike snob where the guy took the front wheel off and locked it to the back wheel and the frame, but in doing so forgot to also loop the lock around the pole they intended to lock the bike to hehehe pretty funny.
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby Chanboy » Wed May 20, 2009 8:42 am
For commuting purposes, I find it hard to justify spending big money on bikes and equipment, sure they have bling value, and probably ride nicely also... however a cheap rust bucket (that is serviced and tuned well) is much less likely to be a thieves target...
Interestingly, in Sydney it does seem that cycling is picking up. Occasionally I've had difficulty finding a street pole or bike rack to lock the bike too as they are all taken up. This may be giving a false sense of security... though just by having more bikes around the place makes statistically your chances of getting yours stolen less. (unless of course thieving increases )
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby hartleymartin » Wed May 20, 2009 9:44 am
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby m@ » Wed May 20, 2009 9:52 am
Good idea IMO. Unless you have lockable skewers (as opposed to the hex-key ones) I'd still be locking them, and cables are relatively cheap and light. Can secure a quick-release seat as well if the cable is long enough. I use one of these guys.misterhorsey wrote:Hey that Hal video looks great.
While I'm waiting for it to load up, just wanted to know whether front wheel thefts on non-QR wheels are at all common.
I got a krptonite U-lock on my frame and back wheel, but am thinking of getting a cable to tie around the front wheel but don't know whether this is just overkill. As I said, I don't have QR wheels. I mean, one can never be too careful, but one might also break one's back with all the stuff one has to carry in one's backpack!!!!!!
The other advantage of having a cable is that if you can't find anything the D-lock will fit around, you can use the cable to go around a light post/tree/whatever and use the D-lock as a padlock. Not as secure as using the D-lock properly of course, but a decent cable will deter casual thieves and if you lock the D-lock through the rear wheel and frame, the bike won't be ridable even if they cut the cable.
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby Aushiker » Wed May 20, 2009 9:57 am
G'dayChanboy wrote: however a cheap rust bucket (that is serviced and tuned well) is much less likely to be a thieves target...
I suspect the thieves beg to differ if the Police auctionsare anything to go by.
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby martinjs » Wed May 20, 2009 12:07 pm
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby misterhorsey » Fri May 22, 2009 12:37 pm
Yeah, thanks. I ended up getting a Cannondale cable for $20 from BSC in Melbourne.m@ wrote:Good idea IMO. Unless you have lockable skewers (as opposed to the hex-key ones) I'd still be locking them, and cables are relatively cheap and light. Can secure a quick-release seat as well if the cable is long enough. I use one of these guys.misterhorsey wrote:Hey that Hal video looks great.
While I'm waiting for it to load up, just wanted to know whether front wheel thefts on non-QR wheels are at all common.
I got a krptonite U-lock on my frame and back wheel, but am thinking of getting a cable to tie around the front wheel but don't know whether this is just overkill. As I said, I don't have QR wheels. I mean, one can never be too careful, but one might also break one's back with all the stuff one has to carry in one's backpack!!!!!!
The other advantage of having a cable is that if you can't find anything the D-lock will fit around, you can use the cable to go around a light post/tree/whatever and use the D-lock as a padlock. Not as secure as using the D-lock properly of course, but a decent cable will deter casual thieves and if you lock the D-lock through the rear wheel and frame, the bike won't be ridable even if they cut the cable.
I'm probably not going to carry it with me everywhere, but its nice to lock up the front wheel when I settle down to watch a movie at the cinema for a few hours. Its not terribly heavy and if I've gone to the trouble of buying an expensive Kryptonite lock to lock and expensive bike, I may as well protect the (somewhat flashy) front wheel I have.
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby Aushiker » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:35 pm
Carlton Reid of quickrelease.tv fame has a video out on locking your bike. It can be found here.
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Re: Commuting lock up advice
Postby jasimon » Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:32 pm
My lock was a J-bolt that was permanently attached to the rear seat stays, went through the rear wheel and had room for you to take off the front wheel and lock it in. Worked quite well and was better than the Kryptonite locks because it wasn't suceptible to liquid nitrogen on the foot. (This was also before the discovery of the Bic pen trick for Kryptonite locks.)
First day I forgot to take the front wheel off someone nicked my front wheel. Thanks. Had to wheel it to the nearest bike shop where they had a range of hundreds of used wheels for me to select from to replace it. Probably acquired by them from the same people that ripped my wheel off. Many people also took their seats with them but I never had my seat nicked even though it was on a QR. But I was probably just lucky.
In Sydney, on the other hand, I put a cable through the front and back wheels and the frame and remove all accessories. Deters casual theft but not anyone with bolt cutters. I rely on insurance for peace of mind if anyone is serious about stealing my bike.
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