If you're into numbers

If you're into numbers

Postby Pushy » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:46 pm

Sorry if its been posted b4, I did search

http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/cycling/19930.asp
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Re: If you're into numbers

Postby paul33 » Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:24 pm

Wow what an excellent graphing system, though the number of people that use Graham Farmer freeway seems a bit low maybe the councils in that area should do some more home work to have more people riding to Perth
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Re: If you're into numbers

Postby Aushiker » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:29 pm

G'day

It has been posted before and discussed but can't find the posting either so good to have a new thread.

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Re: If you're into numbers

Postby rolandp » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:47 pm

CycleSnail posted it here.

Really good stats and hopefully additional measurement points will be added further out from Perth to obtain more stats on cyclists in other areas.
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Re: If you're into numbers

Postby Aushiker » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:42 am

Thanks Roland.

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Re: If you're into numbers

Postby pickle » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:01 am

I wonder why these graphs don't get updated more frequently? The latest numbers are from April
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Re: If you're into numbers

Postby ColinOldnCranky » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:51 am

To give the numbers some perspective, I choose to gauge them against the volumes reported for the southern railway line about six months after opening, to which they are pretty well the same.

So, while on volumes alone I am not comparing apples with apples - one is for all corridors of Perth, the other is for one - I can compare oranges with oranges if I introduce costs into the equation. And while I don't know what the costs of the bike network are, I am pretty sure it is substantially less than that of placing a railway from Perth to Mandurah.

The rail is good value. It seems that the bike network is even better. But then, we all knew that anyway.
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Re: If you're into numbers

Postby rolandp » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:26 am

The 2009 Bicycle traffic count graphs have now been updated to reflect data up until 30th June 2009. It really shows that the onset of colder/wetter weather, and the numbers drop (223K in May 2009 and then 155K in June 2009).

Note, the site does report:
Please note that some data for May and June 2009 was not collected due to a technical error.
The missing data has been estimated and is shown in red font in the excel spreadsheet.

Not too sure where the missing data was, as I couldn't quickly see any red fonts in the charts I looked at this evening.

Worth a look as there is now data from July 2008 until June 2009 (over seperate years).
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Re: If you're into numbers

Postby rolandp » Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:39 am

Site has been updated to show bicycle traffic count for Jul/Aug 2009. There is now over 1 years of data on the site, so you can compare the numbers from last year.

Bad news - August 2008 - 179K compared to August 2009 - 163K. Suppose the extra rain in August 2009 didn't help the cycling numbers for this year. :(
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Re: If you're into numbers

Postby rolandp » Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:06 am

Site has been updated to include stastics from September and October 2009. Someone is getting quicker at putting this data up.

October 2008 there was 210,000 cyclists, compared to October 2009 247,000. Up by 37,000 in one year, for that month. Looks like we like the warmer weather.

Note, these statistics are made up of counters located at 9 spots arond Perth, so this will not be all the journeys made. They can be used to prove a point though. For example October 2009, this was an increase of arond 18% compared to the previous year. Not bad increase, and could be used to justify spending State Governments Parking Levy.
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Re: If you're into numbers

Postby rolandp » Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:54 pm

[url=2009 Bicycle traffic count graphs]2009 Bicycle traffic count graphs[/url] has been updated and now includes statistics for the whole of 2009. Most number of journeys being March 2009 - 283K, most popular point being Kwinana Fwy (Narrows West) - 587K.
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Re: If you're into numbers

Postby rolandp » Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:37 am

2010 Bicycle traffic count graphs have just been uploaded and includes data for Jan-Feb 2010 (268,000 and 269,000 total number of cyclists per month).

There is now daily data available from July 2008 (actually August 2008 was the first full month where there was 179,000 cyclists per month).

Use this data in your corrospondance as it is showing an increase in cycling.
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Re: If you're into numbers

Postby mich rolling » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:01 am

Well done DPI Perth and the Bicycle Unit therein. The later than normal posting is presumably due to Bike Week activities and the Poly Pedal taking up human resources.

The increase in numbers overall over the last year is a bit disappointing, only about 10% more than for the corresponding period last year whereas Melbourne (figures also now up) has increases of 20+%. My impression on the Polly Farmer and Riverside is that the number of riders seems to have increased a lot more than that.

Sydney and Brisbane still don't post numbers.
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Re: If you're into numbers

Postby rolandp » Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:05 am

The 2012 Bicycle traffic count graphs have been updated to include 4 new bike movement counters located at:
Roe Hway PSP
Mitchell Fwy PSP (Karrinyup Rd)
Fremantle PSP (Grant St Station)
Kwinana Fwy PSP (Mt Henry Bridge)

Take a look and see how many bike trips are being made each day.
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Re: If you're into numbers

Postby CycleSnail » Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:45 pm

Thanks, Roland.
Just had a look at the Bassendean PSP numbers -

DoT have claimed an increase of 61% at Tonkin Highway since the new segment has been opened. That is correct in the narrowest sense (comparing June 12 to July 12). Remember that during May/June construction of the PSP was in progress, and access to the Tonking segment of the PSP was more difficult.

If you look at the average % of the total PSP measurements of January to March, and then July to Sept, the % increase is about 20%. (That is a confusing sentence, sorry, what I mean is that the counter at Tonkin Highway accounted for an average of 3.32% of all trips for Jan to March 12, and in the last three months it accounted for 3.98% of all trips.)

More infrastructre means more people cycling safely, but we should use the numbers responsibly. I am happy with a 20% increase, and I am worried that DoT informed the office of the Minister of Transport of a 61% increase.
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Re: If you're into numbers

Postby Aushiker » Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:44 am

Well Minister Buswell is using the 61% increase in riders claim ... See his piece in today's West Australian.

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Re: If you're into numbers

Postby Karati » Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:21 am

Should we really care what numbers they report? I mean if it gives them something to politicize then it just means more cycling infrastructure being built which can only be a good thing. :D
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Re: If you're into numbers

Postby CycleSnail » Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:49 pm

Karati wrote:Should we really care what numbers they report? I mean if it gives them something to politicize then it just means more cycling infrastructure being built which can only be a good thing. :D


I think using dodgy numbers creates unease and false expectations. The real numbers are good enough .... and they are real!

In a similar vein, when the WABN draft got launched the Minister used wrong figures for the number of people riding into the CBD - DoT did not distinguish between trips counted and people cycling, so the real figures were half of what he said.

We know that more infrastructure will increase the number of people riding, and in that respect it is a good story.
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Re: If you're into numbers

Postby eldavo » Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:22 pm

By those stats so will global warming =D
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ABS Cycling Participation Figures from 2012 census

Postby CycleSnail » Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:36 pm

Cycling participation in Perth has increased from 1.1% in 2009 to 1.7% in 2012. More here
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National Cycling Strategy implementation report

Postby CycleSnail » Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:53 pm

The first implementation report of the National Cycling Strategy 2011 – 2016 has been released by the Australian Bicycle Council (ABC). The strategy was signed by the Transport Ministers of all states in 2010.

A summary of the findings can be found here, as well as a list of all the WA projects.
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