I cracked my frame!
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Re: I cracked my frame!
Postby Mulger bill » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:38 am
Hope Spec comes to the party Sneddon.
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Re: I cracked my frame!
Postby vanwonky » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:05 am
Uhmm did I miss something? Are we talking the Cervelo or the Specialized. I thought it was the Cervelo! A subject close to the heart. Post the pic SneddonHope Spec comes to the party Sneddon.
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Re: I cracked my frame!
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Re: I cracked my frame!
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Re: I cracked my frame!
Postby AUbicycles » Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:11 am
That is a pretty bad crack and great that you were able to spot it before it got the better of you.
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Re: I cracked my frame!
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Re: I cracked my frame!
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Re: I cracked my frame!
Postby Nobody » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:23 pm
2LL himself said the only thing he's never broken is a chain. Same stuff as the anvil.im_no_pro wrote:If anyone can break it.......Nobody wrote: That anvil looks pretty strong TLL. You could probably hammer it all day and it wouldn't crack.
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Re: I cracked my frame!
Postby Rockford » Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:39 pm
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Re: I cracked my frame!
Postby toolonglegs » Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:41 pm
Nobody wrote:2LL himself said the only thing he's never broken is a chain. Same stuff as the anvil.im_no_pro wrote:If anyone can break it.......Nobody wrote: That anvil looks pretty strong TLL. You could probably hammer it all day and it wouldn't crack.
Never broken a road bike chain...plenty of mtb ones.
All alloy frames crack....without a doubt!.
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Re: I cracked my frame!
Postby Nobody » Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:07 pm
I believe most alloy bike tubes are fluid formed these days. If you were custom defining tube thickness, where would you make the thinnest part?Rockford wrote:My mechanical engineering isn't anything but that is a weird place to crack.
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Re: I cracked my frame!
Postby snedden9485 » Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:40 am
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Re: I cracked my frame!
Postby Rockford » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:30 am
The part with the least load?Nobody wrote:I believe most alloy bike tubes are fluid formed these days. If you were custom defining tube thickness, where would you make the thinnest part?Rockford wrote:My mechanical engineering isn't anything but that is a weird place to crack.
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Re: I cracked my frame!
Postby Nobody » Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:05 pm
I agree. So I believe it either cracked there because of a manufacturing fault with the tube/frame, or because Specialized's computer modeling predicted that point would be the least load point for that tube and therefore put the least amount of metal there in the never ending quest for light weight. Of course there may be other factors at work here like Snedden using a fixed trainer which changes the way the cycling forces act on the frame. In the end I doubt anyone will care enough to really find out.Rockford wrote:The part with the least load?Nobody wrote:I believe most alloy bike tubes are fluid formed these days. If you were custom defining tube thickness, where would you make the thinnest part?Rockford wrote:My mechanical engineering isn't anything but that is a weird place to crack.
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Re: I cracked my frame!
Postby snedden9485 » Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:47 am
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Re: I cracked my frame!
Postby Nobody » Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:30 am
OK, sounds like you should have no problem with the warranty then. If they replace the frame (likely) and in the chance that you crack the next one in the same place, do you think they'll replace it again? [Just a hypothetical question]snedden9485 wrote:The shop told me they had no dramas with me using it on the trainer. They said they have guys who use the trainer heaps and never have dramas!
I know we as a group are generally higher distance users of bikes, but it appears plenty of people have problems with frames and/or components cracking. I believe if car bodies cracked in less than 50,000Km the reputation of the manufacturer would be damaged, but this is generally unheard of. I think reasonable durability and safety are far more important than light weight.
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Re: I cracked my frame!
Postby Nobody » Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:14 pm
Then you'd lose your money. Have you seen the bikes in my signature? I'd pick the more comfortable and/or durable one.trailgumby wrote:No arguments from me there, but the question is then: what sells? If you had to choose between two bikes at the same price and spec, I'd bet money you'd take the lighter one.
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Re: I cracked my frame!
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Re: I cracked my frame!
Postby snedden9485 » Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:22 pm
me too!!!!!!!!! dont think so thoaeroslavebigbelly wrote:Hope you get the Tarmac SL3 as a replacement!
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Re: I cracked my frame!
Postby snedden9485 » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:57 am
It bloody lucky i have a 2nd bike or id be sitting here on my ass for a month waiting! Its tough to ride the cervelo every day , but hey...I have no other choice
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Re: I cracked my frame!
Postby Nobody » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:10 am
Good to see you are likely to get a favourable result, but it is the waiting and mucking around that makes warranties worthless to me.snedden9485 wrote:It bloody lucky i have a 2nd bike or id be sitting here on my ass for a month waiting! Its tough to ride the cervelo every day , but hey...I have no other choice
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Re: I cracked my frame!
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Re: I cracked my frame!
Postby Aushiker » Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:52 pm
Personally I wouldn't be waiting, I would be talking your State consumer protection department. You might be surprised just how responsive the local distributor suddenly becomes. You shouldn't have to wait for the Specialized USA to respond; the distributor and retailer are subject to Australian law and should sort the problem out immediately, irrespective of what Specialized US think.snedden9485 wrote:Well the shop rang me the other day. The bike has been looked at by spec australia and they have sent photos to USA. According to photos, it should be covered. The BB and broken section gets sent off to USA for assessment, then if covered, i get a new frame. No frames in OZ, so hopefully they upgrade my frame. Tarmac SL - 2?
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Re: I cracked my frame!
Postby Dave R32 » Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:56 pm
Will show this quote to my lovely wife.... and put forward the following arguement "see I need a Madone 6.9" in case the 4.5 breaks, TLL said so"toolonglegs wrote:yep you need two of everything!
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