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If you're into numbers
Postby Pushy » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:46 pm
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Re: If you're into numbers
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Re: If you're into numbers
Postby Aushiker » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:29 pm
It has been posted before and discussed but can't find the posting either so good to have a new thread.
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Re: If you're into numbers
Postby rolandp » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:47 pm
Really good stats and hopefully additional measurement points will be added further out from Perth to obtain more stats on cyclists in other areas.
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Postby Aushiker » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:42 am
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Re: If you're into numbers
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Re: If you're into numbers
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:51 am
So, while on volumes alone I am not comparing apples with apples - one is for all corridors of Perth, the other is for one - I can compare oranges with oranges if I introduce costs into the equation. And while I don't know what the costs of the bike network are, I am pretty sure it is substantially less than that of placing a railway from Perth to Mandurah.
The rail is good value. It seems that the bike network is even better. But then, we all knew that anyway.
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Re: If you're into numbers
Postby rolandp » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:26 am
Note, the site does report:
Not too sure where the missing data was, as I couldn't quickly see any red fonts in the charts I looked at this evening.Please note that some data for May and June 2009 was not collected due to a technical error.
The missing data has been estimated and is shown in red font in the excel spreadsheet.
Worth a look as there is now data from July 2008 until June 2009 (over seperate years).
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Re: If you're into numbers
Postby rolandp » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:39 am
Bad news - August 2008 - 179K compared to August 2009 - 163K. Suppose the extra rain in August 2009 didn't help the cycling numbers for this year.
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Re: If you're into numbers
Postby rolandp » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:06 am
October 2008 there was 210,000 cyclists, compared to October 2009 247,000. Up by 37,000 in one year, for that month. Looks like we like the warmer weather.
Note, these statistics are made up of counters located at 9 spots arond Perth, so this will not be all the journeys made. They can be used to prove a point though. For example October 2009, this was an increase of arond 18% compared to the previous year. Not bad increase, and could be used to justify spending State Governments Parking Levy.
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Re: If you're into numbers
Postby rolandp » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:54 am
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Re: If you're into numbers
Postby rolandp » Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:37 am
There is now daily data available from July 2008 (actually August 2008 was the first full month where there was 179,000 cyclists per month).
Use this data in your corrospondance as it is showing an increase in cycling.
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Re: If you're into numbers
Postby mich rolling » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:01 am
The increase in numbers overall over the last year is a bit disappointing, only about 10% more than for the corresponding period last year whereas Melbourne (figures also now up) has increases of 20+%. My impression on the Polly Farmer and Riverside is that the number of riders seems to have increased a lot more than that.
Sydney and Brisbane still don't post numbers.
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Re: If you're into numbers
Postby rolandp » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:05 am
Roe Hway PSP
Mitchell Fwy PSP (Karrinyup Rd)
Fremantle PSP (Grant St Station)
Kwinana Fwy PSP (Mt Henry Bridge)
Take a look and see how many bike trips are being made each day.
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Re: If you're into numbers
Postby CycleSnail » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:45 pm
Just had a look at the Bassendean PSP numbers -
DoT have claimed an increase of 61% at Tonkin Highway since the new segment has been opened. That is correct in the narrowest sense (comparing June 12 to July 12). Remember that during May/June construction of the PSP was in progress, and access to the Tonking segment of the PSP was more difficult.
If you look at the average % of the total PSP measurements of January to March, and then July to Sept, the % increase is about 20%. (That is a confusing sentence, sorry, what I mean is that the counter at Tonkin Highway accounted for an average of 3.32% of all trips for Jan to March 12, and in the last three months it accounted for 3.98% of all trips.)
More infrastructre means more people cycling safely, but we should use the numbers responsibly. I am happy with a 20% increase, and I am worried that DoT informed the office of the Minister of Transport of a 61% increase.
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Re: If you're into numbers
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Re: If you're into numbers
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Re: If you're into numbers
Postby CycleSnail » Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:49 pm
I think using dodgy numbers creates unease and false expectations. The real numbers are good enough .... and they are real!Karati wrote:Should we really care what numbers they report? I mean if it gives them something to politicize then it just means more cycling infrastructure being built which can only be a good thing.
In a similar vein, when the WABN draft got launched the Minister used wrong figures for the number of people riding into the CBD - DoT did not distinguish between trips counted and people cycling, so the real figures were half of what he said.
We know that more infrastructure will increase the number of people riding, and in that respect it is a good story.
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