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Newbie - Flat Bar or Hybrid
Postby hoich » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:12 am
I am looking at buying a new bike as my current bike is a cheap one. I only ride on bike paths and the road and I am trying to decide between 2 bikes as I don't have a lot of money to spend. The bikes I am looking at are:
Apollo Fiamme and GT Timberline.
Which would people recommend.
I when I go riding on my cheap mountain bike I normally ride between 40 to 60km each time.
Thanks,
Michael
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Postby Aushiker » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:23 am
Welcome to the forums. Personally, given the distances you have indicated you ride, I would go with the flat bar over the hybrid as it will be faster and just that bit better in the into the wind, designed more for commuting (its called a hybrid for a reason) and normally with 28 mm tyres is still sort of comfortable. However I suspect that the suggestion will be to go with a low end road bike, maybe with a more relaxed feel to it.
Search the forums. Lots of advice on this very topic.
BTW does the flat bar you are considering have carbon forks? Carbon seat post? This makes a difference too.
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Postby sogood » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:40 am
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Postby Aushiker » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:20 am
Well I can only comment on my experience. It came with the bike so "cost" was part of the bike and given the cost of the bike compared to other models in the price range it was the best package on offer at the time that I was aware of.sogood wrote:Troubles include cost, risk of clamp damage, stress damage, marginal weight benefit and tiny to imperceptible ride difference.
So far I have had no trouble with same, no clamp damage, no stress damage and as to ride difference, I find it comfortable. Maybe it is not worth it, I don't know, but given it came as part of the package I am not throwing it out.
Furthermore my biggest problem has been a Shimano component not the seat post.
Of course YMMV.
Also I asked the question given that the OP was comparing a hybrid against a flatbar, therefore components such as carbon forks and maybe a carbon seat post may come into play unless the tires on the flat bar being considered are say 32 mm. So given the OP's focus I consider my question quite relevant. Of course it maybe outside the price range at the moment, which again can be relevant as so often it has been suggested by others whom I respect for their advice to hold off buying a new bike until one can afford to purchase a better spec of bike.
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Postby mikesbytes » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:23 am
Probably the flat bar would be more suitable for the bike paths you are riding on. But it really depends on the riders personal preference.
Bike paths tend to be a bit more bumpy than the road, so you would benefit from the carbon forks giving a smoother ride and 28mm are typically a favorite for bike paths.
Couple of questions;
- Where do you live
- How much do you weigh
- How fast do you ride on your current bike
- What are your fitness goals
- What are your local bike paths like and how crowed are they with walkers, dogs etc
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Postby Aushiker » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:51 am
Oh yeah, well at least going by some of the bike paths I ride on .... vibration hellmikesbytes wrote:Bike paths tend to be a bit more bumpy than the road, so you would benefit from the carbon forks giving a smoother ride and 28mm are typically a favorite for bike paths.
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Postby Aushiker » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:52 am
Richard suggesting a flat bar! Is the sun shinning?europa wrote:Have a look at the Felt range - Dave rides a Felt flat bar that is a delightful piece of machinery.
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Postby hoich » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:53 am
I live in Northern suburbs of Melbourne. I current weigh about 97 kg. My fitness goal is to loss weight before I get married in September next year.
When I ride I normally average about 20 km/h for the enitre ride and as I ride early in the morning the bike paths aren't that busy.
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Michael
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Postby sogood » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:54 am
That's a better qualification.Aushiker wrote:Well I can only comment on my experience...
Given,
1) OP's tight budget,
2) Well known knowledge that CF seat posts are more prone to damage than alloy,
3) CF is significantly more expensive than alloy.
4) Lack of consistency in the reporting of CF seat post benefits.
OP is much better advised to invest the limited fund on a CF fork and other well acknowledged components or accessories than a CF seat post.
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Postby Aushiker » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:13 am
I am impressed. I said something rightsogood wrote:That's a better qualification.Aushiker wrote:Well I can only comment on my experience...
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Postby mikesbytes » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:40 am
Flat bar fitted with 28mm tyres should be fine. At a guess average speed would go up about 3kph over your mountain bike.hoich wrote:Hi Michael,
I live in Northern suburbs of Melbourne. I current weigh about 97 kg. My fitness goal is to loss weight before I get married in September next year.
When I ride I normally average about 20 km/h for the enitre ride and as I ride early in the morning the bike paths aren't that busy.
Thanks,
Michael
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Postby Dave A » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:50 pm
Right on Richardeuropa wrote:Have a look at the Felt range - Dave rides a Felt flat bar that is a delightful piece of machinery.
I think a hybrid is ideal for the urban cyclist, and ill bang on about this all day, unfortunately really good hybrids ( not comfort bikes ) are thin on the ground.
The Felts are the best ive seen, and i cant believe how good they are for the money.
http://www.feltbicycles.com/index.php?int_cross_2007
http://www.southcottcycles.com.au/southcott/?id=news
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Postby sogood » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:44 pm
So does a hybrid necessarily have to have front shocks?
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Postby sogood » Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:31 pm
That's the problem, "pretty much" implies that this is not a hard definition and is subject to interpretation and variation.MJF wrote:Hybrid pretty much means road bike rims (700C) but with MTB running gear and frame. The current range of hybrids seem to come with locking front suspension as well.
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Postby MJF » Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:47 pm
Edit : grammatical correction.
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Postby Kalgrm » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:00 pm
Makes sense to me, but my vision of a hybrid bike is NOT a flat bar road bike. For me, that's another type of bike altogether. Hybrids offer a riding position more akin to the upright riding position of a touring bike but without the utility offered by tourers. This forum is the only place I've seen flat-bar roadies referred to as hybrids.sogood wrote:Interesting SB is using touring bike at the other end of the scale.
For me, hybrids are those very upright bikes you see newbies or older people getting around on. They are also called "comfort bikes" by some. They usually have cheap, heavy suspension forks, a cheap and nasty suspension seat post and wide saddles. That's in addition to the wide knobby tyres and the high BB SB was referring to. Basically, a hybrid is a bike that's not good at anything in particular - too slow for commuting, not built for off-road use and too ungainly for touring.
They are comfortable for newbies though .....
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