Why not? Everyone else does!!!MJF wrote:Oi! I don't pick on your bike...
They're all just bikes. Have fun, no matter what you're riding. And if you aren't having fun it's a good excuse to add to the stable .....
Cheers,
Graeme
Postby Kalgrm » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:22 pm
Why not? Everyone else does!!!MJF wrote:Oi! I don't pick on your bike...
Postby Kalgrm » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:45 pm
Postby MJF » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:00 pm
You haven't seen some of the roads I ride on - the main reason I got a hybrid instead of a drop bar tourer for my return to cycling. My Bennett is in the shed, but I don't think it's worth resurrecting, and I want to drop to ~ 100kg before I buy another road bike.Kalgrm wrote: One day you'll jump on a road bike and understand why I've said hybrids aren't that good for road riding. It's nothing personal - just a fact of life.
Cheers,
Graeme
Postby Mulger bill » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:25 pm
Postby Dave A » Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:32 pm
....and road bikes are rubbish off the smooth bitumen, its nothing personal - just a fact of life.Kalgrm wrote: One day you'll jump on a road bike and understand why I've said hybrids aren't that good for road riding. It's nothing personal - just a fact of life.
Postby europa » Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:40 pm
Dunno about that, the Black Beast regularly rides on some horrible roads, on gravel and on dirt. She's no cross country mount but she ain't no billiard table pixie neither. Of course, that is due to the steel frame and the delusional idiot who rides herDave A wrote:....and road bikes are rubbish off the smooth bitumen, its nothing personal - just a fact of life.Kalgrm wrote: One day you'll jump on a road bike and understand why I've said hybrids aren't that good for road riding. It's nothing personal - just a fact of life.
Postby Kalgrm » Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:52 pm
Correct, which is why God invented mountain bikes. "And on the eighth day he hucked ...."Dave A wrote:....and road bikes are rubbish off the smooth bitumen, its nothing personal - just a fact of life.
Postby Dave A » Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:00 pm
No argument here Richard, and im only new here, but surely this guys extracting the urine with comments like this:europa wrote: Dunno about that, the Black Beast regularly rides on some horrible roads, on gravel and on dirt. She's no cross country mount but she ain't no billiard table pixie neither. Of course, that is due to the steel frame and the delusional idiot who rides her
It's horses for course - somes is more general purposes than others is, and somes is more betterer in their choosed field
And the topic was "flat bar or hybrid" was it not ?For me, hybrids are those very upright bikes you see newbies or older people getting around on. They are also called "comfort bikes" by some. They usually have cheap, heavy suspension forks, a cheap and nasty suspension seat post and wide saddles. That's in addition to the wide knobby tyres and the high BB SB was referring to. Basically, a hybrid is a bike that's not good at anything in particular - too slow for commuting, not built for off-road use and too ungainly for touring.
They are comfortable for newbies though .....
Postby Kalgrm » Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:12 pm
Postby europa » Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:14 pm
Didn't see many mtbs in the Paris-Roubaix this yearKalgrm wrote:Simple really - road bikes for the road, mountain bikes for the dirt. You won't see Cadel riding his road bike on the dirt, and you won't see him riding his MTB on the TdF.
Postby Dave A » Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:21 pm
Graeme, and i love a good forum stoushKalgrm wrote:Dave,
You'll probably notice I take the piss a lot. That's just me.
Postby mikesbytes » Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:24 pm
What forum is that Dave?Dave A wrote:My other forum ( non cycling ), that i frequent more often than this one, tends to be quite firey
Postby Kalgrm » Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:41 pm
I know what you mean. I like to watch, but rarely do I get involved in a good virtual-punchup. I was watching this oneon MTBR a month ago in utter disbelief. More than 150 posts of people swiping at each other over something they should have been supporting from the outset!Dave A wrote:Graeme, and i love a good forum stoushKalgrm wrote:Dave,
You'll probably notice I take the piss a lot. That's just me.
My other forum ( non cycling ), that i frequent more often than this one, tends to be quite firey, so im finding the gentle nature of this one quite strange.
But ill try to get used to it.
Dave
Postby sogood » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:59 pm
For an original taste of real flame war, try rec.travel.air or a politics related group on the Usenet! I suggest putting on your flame proof vest before you enter.mikesbytes wrote:What forum is that Dave?Dave A wrote:My other forum ( non cycling ), that i frequent more often than this one, tends to be quite firey
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
Postby sogood » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:03 pm
For a good flame source, you need a contentious topic, a few strong minded individuals with clashing views and anonymity... Let the flames begin!Kalgrm wrote:I think, in general, the Aussie based forums tend to be more civilised - something in our collective psyche which makes us more polite to our fellow community members than some overseas sites.
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
Postby mikesbytes » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:04 pm
Got a link?sogood wrote:For an original taste of real flame war, try rec.travel.air or a politics related group on the Usenet! I suggest putting on your flame proof vest before you enter.
Postby sogood » Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:32 pm
It's not a link. It's a service. The easiest for Windoz users to get on is to use Outlook Express and fill in the server and user settings and subscribe to your desired groups. Do a Google on Usenet and find out the server address from your ISP.mikesbytes wrote:Got a link?sogood wrote:For an original taste of real flame war, try rec.travel.air or a politics related group on the Usenet! I suggest putting on your flame proof vest before you enter.
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
Postby Dave A » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:28 pm
Err, something very esoteric, and only enjoyed seriously by about 8 other people in the whole country, so im a bit shy about talking about it heremikesbytes wrote: What forum is that Dave?
Postby Dave A » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:36 pm
No doubt the bikes used are the quickest way from A to B, or in this case P to R, but is it the most sensible for guys like me and youeuropa wrote:Didn't see many mtbs in the Paris-Roubaix this year
Postby sogood » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:49 pm
+1!gsxrboy wrote:Oh, no discussion needed there at all, macs rule
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
Postby Aushiker » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:27 am
Agree and I did it (60 km) into a head wind on the way out and a head wind on the way back (not so bad on the way back). It would have been much harder on Joe that is for sure.Kalgrm wrote:But you'll also notice in this case I haven't strayed from the topic. If the choice is a flat bar roadie over a hybrid for doing 40-60km rides on only road or bike paths (refer to original question), I'll take the flat bar roadie every time!
Postby europa » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:32 am
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