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New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby RobRollin » Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:02 pm
Good book, good examples of training. After a few training rides this week, and a mid week TT on Wed, 12km, and a 20km TT on Sunday I should have some relative numbers.
Ive also started writing down everything I eat and what times over the next two weeks. I'm also off all alcohol.
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby twizzle » Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:01 am
...real cyclists don't have squeaky chains...
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby toolonglegs » Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:30 pm
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby RobRollin » Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:59 pm
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby toolonglegs » Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:58 pm
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby Zabriskie19 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:03 pm
I'm a rider not a bike mechanic
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby Parrott » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:58 am
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby twizzle » Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:46 am
...real cyclists don't have squeaky chains...
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby Parrott » Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:14 pm
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:45 pm
"Power calibrates PE, PE modulates power." - Charles Howe
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby twizzle » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:13 pm
...real cyclists don't have squeaky chains...
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby RobRollin » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:26 pm
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby twizzle » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:36 pm
...real cyclists don't have squeaky chains...
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:20 am
No.twizzle wrote:You make those up, don't you?
http://alex-cycle.blogspot.com/2008/03/ ... verbs.html
There's been a few more since, I haven't updated the list for a while.
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby Parrott » Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:29 am
Alex Simmons/RST wrote:Pithy Power Proverb:
"Power calibrates PE, PE modulates power." - Charles Howe
I understand that power is a reliable measure of work. However for the same reasons HR is variable surely some days it is simply not as easy to achieve the same output as it is on other days and therefore is an allowance made for physiological variance?
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:14 pm
Well the reasons why PE vs power varies will not necessarily be the same as those the see HR vary.Parrott wrote:Alex Simmons/RST wrote:Pithy Power Proverb:
"Power calibrates PE, PE modulates power." - Charles Howe
I understand that power is a reliable measure of work. However for the same reasons HR is variable surely some days it is simply not as easy to achieve the same output as it is on other days and therefore is an allowance made for physiological variance?
Of course our ability to generate power on a daily basis varies, mostly due to fitness and fatigue levels. Some days it feels easier, some days harder. But that why we talk about training levels, not specific wattages.
The best thing with power and PE is you get to know how your body is adapting to the training. It provides an objective indicator to your subjective sensations.
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby Parrott » Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:40 pm
Alex Simmons/RST wrote: The best thing with power and PE is you get to know how your body is adapting to the training. It provides an objective indicator to your subjective sensations.
Thanks Alex, explained it for me well. Didn't manage to convince me I don't want a power meter though
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby toolonglegs » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:55 am
Well it does except when your bloomin expensive power meter turns out to be a bit of a lemon...I think I know my PE pretty well now...at least within 10-15%,thats why I am becoming convinced my PT torque is slipping again.Parrott wrote:Alex Simmons/RST wrote: The best thing with power and PE is you get to know how your body is adapting to the training. It provides an objective indicator to your subjective sensations.
Thanks Alex, explained it for me well. Didn't manage to convince me I don't want a power meter though
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby RobRollin » Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:54 pm
We had a 35km/h head wind on the out lap.
Lap 1 (0:22:36.86):
Duration: 22:36
Work: 395 kJ
TSS: 44.8 (intensity factor 1.103)
Norm Power: 307
VI: 1.05
Pw:HR: 18.47%
Pa:HR: 5.09%
Distance: 12.6kms
Elevation Gain: 0 ft
Elevation Loss: 0 ft
Grade: -0.0 % (-1 ft)
Min Max AVG
Power: 0 1030 292 watts
Heart Rate: 165 187 178 bpm
Cadence: 2 113 92 rpm
Speed: 1.2 56.3 33.4 kph
Pace 1:04 50:00 1:48 min/km
Altitude: 29 46 38 ft
Crank Torque: 0 1763 272 lb-in
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby twizzle » Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:23 pm
The number look fairly good. But how did you crack 1Kw in a time trial?
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Re: New to Training with a Power Meter
Postby RobRollin » Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:19 pm
Coming off the turn, sprinting to get up to speed I hit 56km/h. Looking at the graph I can see it was off a turn.
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