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cold weather training gear
Postby Parrott » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:48 pm
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Re: cold weather training gear
Postby ve safari » Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:01 pm
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Re: cold weather training gear
Postby toolonglegs » Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:17 pm
Gloves and shoe covers are the most important.
For a day like that I would have winter gloves (thin liner gloves inside if it is below zero).I have trouble with damaged fingers and next winter I will go some serious mountaineering gloves.For 0C normal shoes are fine with good covers.I wear two pairs...one insulated with another neoprene set on top.With thickish socks.Long sleeve under garment with rather expensive winter top.I sometimes wear two winter tops and arm warmers.Neck rings are AWESUM!.I have a beanie under my helmet.Most people don't wear helmets in winter but it can be a bit slippery here.I wear my Assos summer knicks with winter full lengths on top.If it is really cold I put leg warmers over that.
Perspiration is the main issue...if you are training...not touring then you will be sweating so you can't really stop.So for me it is important to know what I want to achieve in my session...with that set up you could ride all day at zero.
My maximum this winter was about 90minutes in minus 12 to 15.I was in pure agony once I got home .
ANd here I am....
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Re: cold weather training gear
Postby shiv » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:00 am
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Re: cold weather training gear
Postby toolonglegs » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:12 am
The one thing you have to be is organized in winter. Forgetting to dry gloves or shoes pretty much means you don't get to ride.
Either that or have two or 3 of everything...gets expensive thou.
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Re: cold weather training gear
Postby JV911 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:15 am
a gilet/windproof vest is idealRobRollin wrote:must to keep cold air form your chest
sydney doesnt get much below 12 so a singlet, jersey, vest, armwarmers, full-lenght knicks, gloves and overshoes/booties are about all you need
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Re: cold weather training gear
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Re: cold weather training gear
Postby twizzle » Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:16 pm
UNO booties are quite good and breathable, and put some gaffer tape over the vent holes in the underside of the shoes. But at -5C, I still get cold feet.Wino wrote:I find my shoes have great ventilation during summer, so I'm not looking forward to winter as I'm sure my feet will freeze. Anyone recommend shoe covers/booteys that are wind-proof and adequately water resistant. And not super-duper expensive?
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Postby ft_critical » Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:34 pm
Try glad (cling) wrapping over either your shoes or socks as is your preference twizzle. This is a great 'old pro' trick for cold + wet.twizzle wrote: But at -5C, I still get cold feet.
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Re: cold weather training gear
Postby twizzle » Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:41 pm
Cold or wet, yes.ft_critical wrote:Try glad (cling) wrapping over either your shoes or socks as is your preference twizzle. This is a great 'old pro' trick for cold + wet.twizzle wrote: But at -5C, I still get cold feet.
Cold + wet = princess mode.
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Re: cold weather training gear
Postby Parrott » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:16 pm
toolonglegs wrote: ...I would give anything for a 0C day maximum at the moment .
Gloves and shoe covers are the most important.
Thanks TLL, I have some torpedo7 neoprene booties already so will have to get some long fingered gloves. Will fleecy lined bibknicks, a gillet and arm warmers and summer jersey be warm enough? Hope I don't have to buy all that gear you have on that looks expensive
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Re: cold weather training gear
Postby Parrott » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:19 pm
ft_critical wrote:This is a sad list I created because I kept forgetting what to wear. Assos catalogue has a good set of temps and what to wear, not that too many of us could afford 100% Assos for any condition.
Yep assos are a few levels up from what I will be looking at, the table looks handy though, thanks.
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Re: cold weather training gear
Postby ft_critical » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:43 pm
I find the fleece longs are very hot hence only under 5 deg for me and careful what the temp will be at the end of the ride. If they have a chamois, which most don't (IME) then you need to wear bibs under them... But I guess bib fleece longs are probably going to have a chamois, didn't know they made these, anway...Parrott wrote:Will fleecy lined bibknicks, a gillet and arm warmers and summer jersey be warm enough? Hope I don't have to buy all that gear you have on that looks expensive
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Re: cold weather training gear
Postby toolonglegs » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:32 pm
Parrot,I would say you need a mild winter long sleeve top as well...but that should be all once you get descent gloves.
I suppose in a way here it is easier as it stays cold,in Oz it can be chilly at 6 am but by 8am you are way too hot.
Wino,I tape up my vents on lightweight carbon shoes in winter and then put warmers over the top.I only really go to gortex winter boots when it is really cold.
I also glad wrap and tin foil if needed...glad wrap on outside of shoes under bootie covers is fantastic when wet.
I even tin foil a few of my problem fingers on top of my inner gloves before putting my winter gloves on...gives me another 30 minutes .
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Postby Parrott » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:38 pm
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Postby Parrott » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:40 pm
toolonglegs wrote:My long knicks are fleecy lined.They do have a chamois but I still wear my Assos knicks under them or I get to cold.
Parrot,I would say you need a mild winter long sleeve top as well...but that should be all once you get descent gloves.
I suppose in a way here it is easier as it stays cold,in Oz it can be chilly at 6 am but by 8am you are way too hot.
Wino,I tape up my vents on lightweight carbon shoes in winter and then put warmers over the top.I only really go to gortex winter boots when it is really cold.
I also glad wrap and tin foil if needed...glad wrap on outside of shoes under bootie covers is fantastic when wet.
I even tin foil a few of my problem fingers on top of my inner gloves before putting my winter gloves on...gives me another 30 minutes .
I've seen those vids of yours TLL not surprised at the layers you need
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Re: cold weather training gear
Postby toolonglegs » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:45 pm
You might be able to get away with full length leg warmers and normal or 3/4 knicks.Your legs should take the cold better than your core...when you core is cold all your energy is diverted there to keep you warm and less for the extremities.
A fleecy neck ring is super cheap and works a treat to keep cool air of your chest and keep your throat healthy.You use a lot of water in cold weather as you body tries to moisten the cold air coming in before it enters your lungs.
Also a beanie or fleecy ear warmer under the helmet can help too...cold wind rushing over your ears can give you a good head ache.
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Postby Parrott » Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:27 pm
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Re: cold weather training gear
Postby clack3rz » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:31 pm
Boy do they work.....they can get sweaty though on longer rides. But opening the zip up works - the back has mesh so you can cool down quite quickly with the air flowing through.
But I normally wear the following on a cold Melbourne morning:
compression top
thin longsleeve climacool top
cyclingdeal jacket
fleecy full legg'd cycling pants (cyclingdeal)
thick socks
beanie
windproof gloves
clear glasses - keep the cold wind out from the eyes
I may drop the thick socks this year and get some shoe covers......
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Re: cold weather training gear
Postby shiv » Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:19 pm
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Re: cold weather training gear
Postby ft_critical » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:01 pm
Ooooo, yuck, cycling without nicks/shorts. Watch out for the boys from Oxford Street CC.shiv wrote:I may be slightly crazy.... I never need more then a singlet, arm and knee warmers in Adelaide.
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