Shogun Appreciation Society
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby whitestivo » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:05 am
Took the katana out on my regular 65km saturday loop, stuck with the quick group (34km avg) until the 60km mark, then the final sprint through the hills did me in. still top bike. still WIP, need get stafford get those hoods.
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby axeman74 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:52 pm
I have a Shogun Alpine GT Touring bike that I absolutely love. Apparently it was one of the last few imported into the country before they stopped making them.
Lovely light Cro-Mo frame (I have had it stripped to a bare frame, and it is lighter than many alu frames I have owned), full set of rack/mudguard mounts, beautiful ride, Shimano RSX Sti shifters etc. An all round great touring/commuting bike.
My bike seems to have been made just before Shogun went from making nice quality mid-high range bikes to making the mass produced lower end rubbish they are putting their name on nowadays. Such a shame, I could always recommend their older bikes knowing they were good quality and very well made for their price.
Wish I could post some pics, but alas I do not have enough credit! Only two more posts to go.....
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby rustguard » Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:39 pm
Its a shame I didnt give it a good clean before I took the pics, not sure the images do the frame full justice.
Also check out the diameter of the brake cables, they are like motorbike cables.
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby hartleymartin » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:21 pm
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby brendan03 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:44 pm
Bought this eBay Shogun for $80 before I realised it was in QLD and I had to ship it to Melbourne. Anyways, $150 worth of postage later, it's mine.
The seller was very short on details (Shimano "6000" gears & "Campyanolo" wheels) and with only one tiny low-res photo to go on, I took a punt and bought it before anyone ele noticed it.
In reality it has a mix of 600 & 105 with "Lasco" cranks (anyone know anything about them? Cheap Taiwanese gear?) and a pretty beaten up Rolls saddle.
Not sure what to do with it yet - just re grease it, clean it and ride as is? Or maybe i'll strip it and give it a new paint job. Maybe even try complete the 600 Ultegra group...
Anyway - thats my Shogun Samurai
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby rkelsen » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:22 pm
I'd give it a good clean, replace the consumables and ride...
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby brendan03 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:15 am
I'm worried about the amount of (innocent enough) surface rust - if I leave it as is, maybe even leave it in the rain at the train station a couple of times I'm worried the rust will get out of hand. Perhaps a quick & dirty spray-paint job might help preserve it till if/when I decide to put some more effort in.
Unless anyone knows of a way to treat the rust without sanding it away?
Also - anyone know if this would have originally featured a full 600 group? Or more likely a full 105 group? We're they sold with mish-mash groups?
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby rkelsen » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:53 pm
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby Old Hutcho » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:56 pm
I ride this bike in all weathers and its a beautiful bike for what I use it for. I only ride about 6 km to work so its not a long commute. Ive got a fairly impressive little hill to get home and the triple front rings make easy work of that. Between me and the payload it carries 110kg around so its quite a little workhorse. So far its been trouble free and I am mighty impressed with the quality of the frame and the workmanship thats gone into it. I am not sure how old it is but my best guess is about 1983.
One day when I learn to post fotos I will do so but if anyone wants a look just e mail me and I will send some pics.
regards
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby drubie » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:09 pm
I suspect rust converter will discolour paint so wash it down as per the instructions on the bottle.
but really, that's rubbish. We get none of it because the choices are illusory.
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby ve safari » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:33 pm
I've got a pair of 600 Ultegra dual pivot callipers in VGC condition if you are interested. They'll be off my bike in the next week or so.brendan03 wrote: Maybe even try complete the 600 Ultegra group...
Anyway - thats my Shogun Samurai
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby X-Infinity » Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:59 pm
ok so i found an old Shogun Selectra on the street, and very hastily decided to adopted it.
it sat in my garage for a while till i had the cash to start work on her.
She was in very bad condition when i found her and i was forced to strip alot of the parts. to the point where i decided to turn her into a fixie since it would be cheaper and easier then re gearing her.
however i have come across abit of a problem. the Headset has a second Locknut / Top race kinda thing which is quite stuck.
It dosent have any surface which i can use any sort of tool i know of. It's just got a sort of grip on it. Iv tried to remove it manually but after about 8 rotations it has gotten jammed on a thred on the neck / stem.
what should i do to remove this thredded ring?
also i was wondering if any one knows the specs on the bottom bracket slot of the shogun selectra. since i need to purchase a new BB.
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby rkelsen » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:05 pm
lolz.X-Infinity wrote:Wooo. finally an interesting thred!
The BB should be English threaded and 68mm wide.
Have you tried spraying the steerer with wd40 or c r c or rp7? Be careful not to strip the threads.
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby brendan03 » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:39 pm
Is it like this?X-Infinity wrote:the Headset has a second Locknut / Top race kinda thing which is quite stuck.
It dosent have any surface which i can use any sort of tool i know of. It's just got a sort of grip on it.
If so, you might need to pictured tool to remove it.
And if it is, you should try to keep it intact and un damaged because it's a rather awesome headset.
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby X-Infinity » Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:55 pm
as you can see, there is a thredded nut sorta thing with a thin gripped surface around its circumfrence. how can i remove it!?
i have attempted to remove it using WD40 and a coarse towel for grip but it has gotten stuck on the thred of the stem i think. :S
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby brendan03 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:04 pm
Remove everything you can from the head set, the stem, locknut, reflector, etc.. then just try get a good grip on it and turn. You might need to get the vice-grips onto it. Also, screw it down as far as it will go and try clean the threads with a toothbrush & WD40 to remove any grim that might be getting caught.
Best of luck
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby familyguy » Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:08 pm
Screw it back down and visually check the threads too. They might be chewed out if you've cross-threaded it.
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby X-Infinity » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:02 pm
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby LG » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:59 pm
If you're using vice grips, cut up an old inner tube and wrap it around the nut. Install the vice grips over the tube, that way the vice grips do their job ... 'grip' ... but won't damage the part.brendan03 wrote:Remove everything you can from the head set, the stem, locknut, reflector, etc.. then just try get a good grip on it and turn. You might need to get the vice-grips onto it. Also, screw it down as far as it will go and try clean the threads with a toothbrush & WD40 to remove any grim that might be getting caught.
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby brokenbus » Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:38 pm
Cheers
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby Spork! » Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:13 pm
57cm Shogun ??? (roadie) of unknown age - I bought it second hand in early - mid 90's.
Was my first road bike, and so much faster than my MTB - I loved it! Fitted longer stem, alloy bars with new tape, new saddle and seatpost, 19mm tires and SPD pedals. Recently replaced the super skinny tires with 28mm ones.
No stickers on it anywhere, I only know it's a Shogun because that is stamped on the top of the seat stays.
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby Spork! » Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:01 pm
Detail of rear dropouts etc:
Only way to tell it's a Shogun.
sooo... anyone got any idea what year/model mine might be? One of their better older ones, or one of the shite newer ones? Or a shite older one?
PS: mowed the lawn a couple of hours after photos.
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby rkelsen » Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:59 pm
What size is the seat post?
My guess is early 90s Selectra. Definitely looks like a cr-mo frame to me. Either Tange 900 or Infinity.
Can you post the serial number?
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby Spork! » Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:36 am
rkelsen wrote:Hey Spork!
What size is the seat post?
My guess is early 90s Selectra. Definitely looks like a cr-mo frame to me. Either Tange 900 or Infinity.
Can you post the serial number?
Has been repainted at some stage and serial has been mostly filled with paint , but I think it's: D 01017548
My calipers are at father-in-laws, but I'd guesstimate that the seat pole is 1 inch diameter.
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Re: Shogun Appreciation Society
Postby rkelsen » Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:09 pm
Possibly a 1990 model. Certainly looks to be between 1988 and 1992, anyhow.Spork! wrote:Has been repainted at some stage and serial has been mostly filled with paint , but I think it's: D 01017548
My calipers are at father-in-laws, but I'd guesstimate that the seat pole is 1 inch diameter.
Seat posts vary in 2mm increments. The smallest size is 25.4mm and generally used on the cheapest/lowest quality frames. The largest size (on retro steel) is 27.2mm, which is what was used on top-of-the-line models. I've got a feeling that yours will be around 26.4mm, but I may well be wrong.
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